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HOW TO AVOID JURY DUTY c&p

MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
New Wrinkle On Avoiding Jury Duty
In no uncertain terms, a Montana man tells judge why he won't serve

APRIL 30--There are probably better ways to avoid jury duty than the approach recently taken by a Montana man. After Erik Slye, 36, received a jury notice earlier this year, he filed a notarized affidavit seeking to be excused from serving on a District Court panel in Gallatin County. Slye's caustic affidavit, which he prepared with help from his wife Jennifer, can be found below. The document, of course, did not sit well with court officials and led a judge to threaten to jail Slye. But after being summoned to court, Slye apologized for the affidavit and avoided being cited on a criminal failure to appear rap. And he also was excused from serving on a jury. (1 page)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0430091jury1.html

lol, At Least he was honest and didn't come up with some big fabricated lie. Read what he wrote...

Comments

  • medic07medic07 Member Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not the brightest crayon in the box, but at least it was original.
  • 7RiverMan77RiverMan7 Member Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thats funny!

    My mom is the Court Clerk there.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    " I believe in jury nullification" .

    Would work like garlic against a vampire.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    how many wrinkles do a dog's balls have?


    the world may never know
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,815 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think the guy is a genius!!!

    As far as I know...we still have freedom of expression in this country....as long as he showed for duty then there is nothing that they could do...he was not under oath and he didn't violate any law...after all he was not in Court so "contempt of Court" would not apply...

    mess'em if they can't take a joke...the last Jury Duty questionaire I received they asked my wife's profession and I wrote "none of your business"..and frankly its not...I am not under any legal obligation to tell anyone my or her profession...they can kiss my *..and I'm a cop
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,815 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    regarding the testicle question...there is a qualitative difference between a toy poodle's ball wrinkle volume vs. a English Mastiff's Ball wrinkle volume....
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    I like that guy.[:)]
  • Survivalist86Survivalist86 Member Posts: 3,105
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    regarding the testicle question...there is a qualitative difference between a toy poodle's ball wrinkle volume vs. a English Mastiff's Ball wrinkle volume....


    Let us not even mention the Shar Pei!!
  • D1D1 Member Posts: 11,412
    edited November -1
    Very well said. When I was in LE people were all the time asking me to get them out of jury duty. I told them, you don't have to say a word, just show up wearing jeans and a rebel flag t-shirt. It worked every time.
  • Tech141Tech141 Member Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't know him, but I have a HUGE amount of respect for him.

    I am anxiously awaiting MY chance to serve on a jury. Haven't been called yet. Bummer.
  • MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
    edited November -1
    Really haven't looked that closely but I think my Dachshund
    hasn't any at all.[8D]
  • D1D1 Member Posts: 11,412
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55
    Really haven't looked that closely but I think my Dachshund
    hasn't any at all.[8D]



    Balls or wrinkles?
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750
    edited November -1
    Not real bright that fellow. I just ask them to provide an oxygen bottle for me. Never hear from them again.
  • JorgeJorge Member Posts: 10,656 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    White people!

    [:0]
  • MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by drjew
    quote:Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55
    Really haven't looked that closely but I think my Dachshund
    hasn't any at all.[8D]



    Balls or wrinkles?



    Wrinkles LMAO
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 18,801
    edited November -1
    It's funny, but his style doesn't really impress me.

    First he says he can't serve because he can't take off work, then says he doesn't want to serve because he doesn't belive in the justice system.

    Well, which is it gonna be fella?
  • rugerguy66rugerguy66 Member Posts: 62 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    just write do not live at this address, and mail it back!
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,222 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    On the one hand, I like honest people.
    On the other hand, I dislike stupid people.

    If this nitwit dislikes the jury system, I wonder which system of justice he prefers.
    Maybe he would have been happy living in Russia in 1938.
    Say one bad word about Stalin and you were thrown in the Gulag.
    No jury would decide your guilt or innocence.
    After a few years of starvation rations in the freezing cold of Siberia, you would be worked to death.
  • MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
    edited November -1
    The problem with the courts system is that to many innocent people are going to jail. You have 2 lawyers in a court room both trying to prove the other wrong. Neither side cares about the truth. Both will manipulate the facts to prove their point. A just system would be where both sides work together to find the truth. A just system would be one that everyone, no matter what race, gender, or social status gets the same punishment for the same crime. A just system would be one that when the prosecuting attorney screws up and sends an innocent man to jail the prosecutor replaces him in jail and spends equal time in jail.[8D]
  • Sig220_Ruger77Sig220_Ruger77 Member Posts: 12,748 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:The problem with the courts system is that to many innocent people are going to jail. You have 2 lawyers in a court room both trying to prove the other wrong. Neither side cares about the truth. Both will manipulate the facts to prove their point. A just system would be where both sides work together to find the truth. A just system would be one that everyone, no matter what race, gender, or social status gets the same punishment for the same crime. A just system would be one that when the prosecuting attorney screws up and sends an innocent man to jail the prosecutor replaces him in jail and spends equal time in jail.[8D]

    Doubt it will ever happen, but I completely agree with you.

    Jon
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,047 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The writer must be a member of GB!

    I have seen the same opinions expressed numerous times right here on these forums.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,047 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55
    The problem with the courts system is that to many innocent people are going to jail. You have 2 lawyers in a court room both trying to prove the other wrong. Neither side cares about the truth. Both will manipulate the facts to prove their point. A just system would be where both sides work together to find the truth. A just system would be one that everyone, no matter what race, gender, or social status gets the same punishment for the same crime. A just system would be one that when the prosecuting attorney screws up and sends an innocent man to jail the prosecutor replaces him in jail and spends equal time in jail.[8D]


    Never spent much time in a court, have you?
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • calrugerfancalrugerfan Member Posts: 18,209
    edited November -1
    I've always found this script to be effective:

    "I'm really excited to be on a jury. Tell me, is it a BLACK person?"

    or

    "If we recommend the death penalty, do we get to WATCH?"
  • chollagardenschollagardens Member Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like jury duty. I have never been picked and now may be too old. How often do the jurers get bathroom breaks?
  • MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
    edited November -1
    I try to stay out of court rooms as much as possible. Unfortunantly when peple go thru divorces, or your favorite nephew decides he is to lazy to work and starts selling drugs and gets caught, or you as a younger man gets punched by a drunk undercover cop because you beat him on the pool table and took his money, yes I been in a couple of court rooms over the years.
  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    I was eligible for jury duty for 6 months and never got called. I did indicate that 10 days out of the month I was obligated to a job which was time sensitive and I was the only one trained to accomplish it ,but outside of that time I could serve. Guess that must have been enough.

    In local court I did get called for a DUI but was booted by the defense when he asked if anyone had ever driven after taking prescription meds and I indicated NO.
  • BlairweescotBlairweescot Member Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don;t like jury duty.

    But it's a duty
  • RtWngExtrmstRtWngExtrmst Member Posts: 7,456
    edited November -1
    In trials you have prosecutors making money and lying to the jury. You have defense lawyers lying to the jury and making money. You have a judge making money and wondering whose lying. You have court reporters, baliffs, process servers, and police witnesses all making money and probably lying too.

    Then you have people on the jury, making virtually nothing, and they're supposed to sort it all out.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Polite Psycho
    White people!

    [:0]




    [:D][:D][:D]We hunt and eat bear too.[;)]
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Before I retired I loved to get on jury duty. Beat the Hell out of working & we got full pay for as long as a a trial lasted. It really hurt when I got thrown off one panel for a trial they said could last as much as six months. Haven't you ever noticed that on any big trial there will always be at least one Postal worker on the jury?
    Now that I'm retired I'm not so happy to get called but at least it does give me something to do. I just wish I didn't have to drive so far.
  • bountyhunter101bountyhunter101 Member Posts: 149 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gee, I just got something from my court on jury duty. I know the judges & prosecutors & hate them all. Don't think that I will have any trouble getting out of it.
  • john wjohn w Member Posts: 4,104
    edited November -1
    The best way is state on the questionare that you cant stand cops and they are all crooked and will say anything to trick and catch a person for the sole reason of revenue gathering. That works every time as you are Biased against the person who MUST be part of the process and thats as much as telling the judge you will vote NOT GUILTY against the cops!
  • cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am exempt because I'm still active duty.
  • campazzadacampazzada Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been sent letters numerous times over the years for jury duty. I place them in a circular file. If it doesn't come registered mail then who says it came at all. Maybe it's lost in the mail??? Never heard anything in years about it!!
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    About 2 years ago a bud of mine was summoned. When he was called to the stand during the questioning he said something like "When we find him guilty, can we kill him?". This didn't sit too well with the suits but he was back at work the next morning.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,222 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, all you guys who are bending over backwards to avoid jury duty are corrupting an essential part of our way of life.
    If the day ever comes when you face a jury, I hope you think about how hard you have tried to damage this system.

    Our system is not perfect, far from it, but tell me one that is better.

    It is an honor to be called to serve on a jury.
  • Saxon PigSaxon Pig Member Posts: 754 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think the guy is a complete dick.

    1. Jury duty isn't fun but it's a part of our judicial system and it's a good part. We don't want a system like other countries where a panel of professional jurists sit in judgment. We want to be tried by a jury of our peers, like it says in the Constitution. It really is a civic duty and responsibility of decent citizens to participate.

    2. Writing such a vulgar and insulting letter to the court was just about the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Sending such a crude, profanity-laced message to anyone would be crass in the extreme, but sending it to a judge was a real * move. If I had been the judge he would have served 24 hours in lockup for contempt.

    But that's just my opinion.
  • dfoglekydfogleky Member Posts: 101 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just got finished with a year on the federal jury here in Kentucky. An absolute joke. Why don't they choose folks who are drawing a government check to fill those spots and let the people with jobs go to thier jobs? How many lost hours do you think employers have to make up for every year because of jury duty? It kind of worked out for me, because I would stop at all the pawn shops while I was in town. There were people who actually had to drive over 100 miles just to show up and not get picked. The pay was a penance as well. You would think the federal government would have to follow the minimum wage laws that they created, but they certainly don't.
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, the jury is an important part of our legal system. I feel that we have an abundance of clear thinking folks in this country with plenty of spare time on their hands that would welcome the opportunity to serve and appreciate the pay (meager as it is). Perhaps being gainfully employed could be a reason to be excused.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dfogleky
    I just got finished with a year on the federal jury here in Kentucky. An absolute joke. Why don't they choose folks who are drawing a government check to fill those spots and let the people with jobs go to thier jobs? How many lost hours do you think employers have to make up for every year because of jury duty? It kind of worked out for me, because I would stop at all the pawn shops while I was in town. There were people who actually had to drive over 100 miles just to show up and not get picked. The pay was a penance as well. You would think the federal government would have to follow the minimum wage laws that they created, but they certainly don't.


    I certainly would not want some inner city welfare puke deciding my fate if I were charged with something...I would want a jury of my peers.
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