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Car crash- Legal Questions
legear
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My family and I were in a crash today that resulted in a hospital visit. The wife was banged up but nothing broken. The car we hit ran a stop sign. The drivers first words were Im so sorry I didnt see the sign because of that tree. I went back to the stop sign and sure enough you cant see the sign until your 10 feet +/- away. Too late to make a safe stop. Should the city be held at fault for this??
Also, Two hours into the hospital visit it hit us that the airbags didnt deploy. I think I was going 25-30 mph but im not sure. My wife hit the dash so hard that the glovebox busted and the black area on the bottom of the dash shattered. At what speed should the bags have deployed? I bought this car used, should I be callin up the prev owner about the airbags?? I didnt do a carfax but to look at it in the right light you can see where there had been body work. I wonder if someone went the cheap route and didnt install the airbags??
Also, Two hours into the hospital visit it hit us that the airbags didnt deploy. I think I was going 25-30 mph but im not sure. My wife hit the dash so hard that the glovebox busted and the black area on the bottom of the dash shattered. At what speed should the bags have deployed? I bought this car used, should I be callin up the prev owner about the airbags?? I didnt do a carfax but to look at it in the right light you can see where there had been body work. I wonder if someone went the cheap route and didnt install the airbags??
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There is nothing to pursue at that end.
The person that you hit is at fault, insurance should take care of it.
get her in to a specialist who can scan her neck head and skeletal system. you would be SOL if you did nothing and she had major medical problems in the next few days. keep an eye on her.
hopefully you were both insured. you pay for it so use it. make certain she is OK...
With newer cars the airbags have several sensors that all have to trip or a combo of those sensors to make the airbags go off. It has to have the right combo of speed, or impact or number of tripped sensors, ect.
BTW we did NOT have on a seatbelt. Thought I was a great driver + the airbags would save us.... B.S. I urge all to wear a belt
Maybe, just maybe, a forum about firearms is not a real good place to inquire as to legal matters. An attorney may be better suited for that.
Obviously sir, you have no faith in the half drunk, legal mind of a gun packing American.
Shame on you.
Spec4
Also heard tales of mechanics unhooking an airbag to do work on the car, then forgetting to hook them back up.
Your angle with the town and the stop-sign is a good angle, surely the county has more money that $100k.
Suing the auto-makers is good too, they have money too.
I cant belive she didnt break anything. I am very upset about the stop sign. My neighborhood has 50+/- intersections. Some are 4 way some are 2 way. You can drive 3 blocks with no stop sign and then stop at a 4 way then stop at the 2 way thinking its a 4 way and end up in a crash. Ive seen it alot around here.
BTW we did NOT have on a seatbelt. Thought I was a great driver + the airbags would save us.... B.S. I urge all to wear a belt
Gee, maybe the rest of us are already smart enough to wear them. I really hate it when someone does something stupid, and then tries to preach to the rest of us not to pull the same stupid stunt they did.
With that out of the way, your wife could have some serious complications from impacting the dash. It may take a few days for them to show up, so she needs to see a specialist ASAP.
Was this before or after it was brought to his attention he ran a stop sign? My point...how did he know he didn't see the stop sign if he didn't see it (unless it was pointed out after the fact and prior to his statement)?
Kind of like my wife telling me to "ask" if I don't hear her. ??????
Maybe, just maybe, a forum about firearms is not a real good place to inquire as to legal matters. An attorney may be better suited for that.
as a survivalist, you suggest a bar card holder? uff-da.
woe be it to the man who trust his affairs to a lawyer his finances to a banker and his health to a doctor.
My family and I were in a crash today that resulted in a hospital visit. The wife was banged up but nothing broken. The car we hit ran a stop sign. The drivers first words were Im so sorry I didnt see the sign because of that tree. I went back to the stop sign and sure enough you cant see the sign until your 10 feet +/- away. Too late to make a safe stop. Should the city be held at fault for this??
Also, Two hours into the hospital visit it hit us that the airbags didnt deploy. I think I was going 25-30 mph but im not sure. My wife hit the dash so hard that the glovebox busted and the black area on the bottom of the dash shattered. At what speed should the bags have deployed? I bought this car used, should I be callin up the prev owner about the airbags?? I didnt do a carfax but to look at it in the right light you can see where there had been body work. I wonder if someone went the cheap route and didnt install the airbags??
First point- YOU did not hit ANYone
YOUR car was HIT
A very important point to be very clear on during any report of trhe incident, made to anyone, at any time
Almost the same thing happened to me about 15 years ago. The driver is responsible for his actions. If he didn't see the sign, he was unfamiliar with the area and needs to be cautious- which he wasn't, obviously
I did get out of a speeding ticket in Rainelle WV. once due to the speed sign being covered by pine tree branches. The speed limit was posted at 55 and when I passed the hidden sign it was posted at 25. After receiving the ticket. I went back and got a few photos of the covered sign and the charges were dropped at the hearing.
Or the lock/switch can sit in the center console.
Other cars that don't have the key/switch thingy - there you have to manually disassemble the dashboard where the Airbag would be located, and either disconnect it, or take it off completely.
(or have the workshop do it!)
If the previous owners had small kids, and a childseat on the front passenger seat - they might have turned it off or had it disconnected or removed. It's standard procedure to mark this with a sticker, that the Airbag is out of function.! Well, at least here it is.
If you HAVE airbags - they are usually always marked.
I.e. there will be "AIRBAG" imprinted in the dashboard, center of the steeringwheel and so on.
We sometimes see that people who don't use seatbelts - get complications if they are hit by the airbag.
Seatbelt is in my opinion, the absolute... one and only... safest thing to use.!
Don't rely on airbags by themselves.!
quote:The drivers first words were Im so sorry I didnt see the sign because of that tree.
Was this before or after it was brought to his attention he ran a stop sign? My point...how did he know he didn't see the stop sign if he didn't see it (unless it was pointed out after the fact and prior to his statement)?
Kind of like my wife telling me to "ask" if I don't hear her. ??????
I'd suspect... that if he's told about the stopsign.. after he ended up in a crash - he'd believe there was a stopsign.
No need to go check.
The mechanism on my 1995 Jeep Cherokee was nothing more than a plastic bottle with an "air line" mounted behind the front fender. In case of a crash the bottle was mashed causing air pressure to trigger the air bag. The only way to disable it was to cut the air line from the bottle, Remove the air from from the sensor or remove the air bags from the steering column and passenger side of the jeep. When I replaced the bumper I removed the bottle and air line going to the sensor. The Cherokee has been banged around on hard at times from all angles and the air bags have never gone off yet. A friend has his go off when he hit a tree hard enough to push the bumper back enough to mash the bottle. Since we use the Jeeps for trail riding only. Working bags are not a welcome thing to have on them. I will take a tight fitting 4 or 5 point harness any day.
I cant belive she didnt break anything. I am very upset about the stop sign. My neighborhood has 50+/- intersections. Some are 4 way some are 2 way. You can drive 3 blocks with no stop sign and then stop at a 4 way then stop at the 2 way thinking its a 4 way and end up in a crash. Ive seen it alot around here.
BTW we did NOT have on a seatbelt. Thought I was a great driver + the airbags would save us.... B.S. I urge all to wear a belt
She may not have broken anything but give it a little time, minor accidents can jar a person in all sorts of ways. Consult a good attorney, they can get things done when you can't, the at fault drivers insurance will give you the run around until its to late to file a lawsuit. He will also be able to help out with who all should be held liable.
Did anybody mention that airbags dont work when you don't have your seat belt on?
At least mine don't. i'm pretty sure most dont work without the seatbelt "plugged in"
again, to hell with your piece of S car. worry about your wife. go see a specialist.
oops had caps on,sorry
The other driver went through a stop sign according to the story. His negligence caused the accident
Conversely, the lack of seatbelts worn by the occupants of the vehicle that was struck was not a factor in the other driver's failure to stop for the stop sign
Conversely, the lack of seatbelts worn by the occupants of the vehicle that was struck was not a factor in the other driver's failure to stop for the stop sign
No, but it impacts directly on damages. Damages equals money. Money makes the case go round.
I've seen it time and time again with the seat belt issue...
The damage to the car is another matter, but there is no money in that.
Disagree, Select-fire. Your example is not the same thing.
The other driver went through a stop sign according to the story. His negligence caused the accident
Conversely, the lack of seatbelts worn by the occupants of the vehicle that was struck was not a factor in the other driver's failure to stop for the stop sign
Sorry I threw you for a loop. Negligence can go both ways.