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Difference in Labrador Retrievers ?

MFIMFI Member Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭
edited April 2010 in General Discussion
Hope this isnt a dumb question ...Im looking at a 18 month old Yellow lab (pure bred with papers)for the family and kids.. We have had three black labs in the past that were great dogs. Is there really any difference in these dogs in their demeanor etc depending on what color you buy ? Thanks as always..

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  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,059 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought Lab was a Lab. Then again back yard breeders and inbreeding do make fun dogs [:D]. I'd be more worried about the breeder.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've had two blacks and a now a blonde. She is actually smarter than the blacks. At 17 months she has done well retrieving birds and knows the whistle commands, hand signals, when jeopardy comes on ( for her evening milkbone ) and will bring my house slippers to me from the bedroom. She lays for hours watching out the window birds landing in the yard. Every dog has a different personality. This one is a clinger. I can't go anywhere she isn't right there and gets mad if I don't take her a ride in the truck. Truck means hunting. Gun means hunting. Camo means hunting. Cooler means hunting.
  • MossbergboogieMossbergboogie Member Posts: 12,211
    edited November -1
    Most of my experience comes with the black labs, which tended to be more dosile and better with smaller kids. Chocolates tend to be more on the high energy side, but I think it is more of a dog by dog difference than color.
  • 47studebaker47studebaker Member Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    have you had dogs before? I wouldn't get a dog that old. We looked for a pup a while ago. I wanted one 6 months or younger. Found one that I and wife fell in love with. Mixed breed golden and flat coat. After taking it to the vet for all the shots and stuff he said it was a year old. Great dog except when someone approaches the dog on the porch. She lays down on all fours with her head between her front feet as if "praying" don't hit me. Other than that she has adapted well, friendly to everyone after an initial "pat or stroke" and won't leave your side. I suspect the owners abused the dog as a pup.
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've wondered the same thing over the years.

    My Kate is a Yellow Lab/Golden Retreiver mix and she was the runt of the litter ... evidently that means nothing as she is very smart and lives to please. When I'm home she is always by my side and was the easiest dog I've ever had to house break; she knows several commands and loves to get the paper in the mornings. She is a show-off and will typically wait until someone is driving by before picking it up ... she is such a ham ... after turning 2-3 years old (out of the puppy stage) she has been very calm and always been a pleasure to be around ... she loves to sit and watch parades and fireworks.

    I took her to the vet because she has been loosing a lot of weight, drinking lots of water and has been weak and tiring easily. Unfortunately we found out she has advanced cancer and her days are few.
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  • countryfarmercountryfarmer Member Posts: 4,552
    edited November -1
    It's more of a dog to dog thing than color thing. 18 mo old would be great ,IMHO, because they would be out of SOME of that puppy stage. I think labs tend to stay in the puppy stage for the first 5 yrs of their life, or at least our last one did.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    I never had any except one yellow dog, and he is scary smart. I swear he understands English.
  • likemhotlikemhot Member Posts: 2,885 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My 18 month old chocolate is my best friend. Best dog we have ever had

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  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MFI
    Hope this isnt a dumb question ...Im looking at a 18 month old Yellow lab (pure bred with papers)for the family and kids.. We have had three black labs in the past that were great dogs. Is there really any difference in these dogs in their demeanor etc depending on what color you buy ? Thanks as always..
    The Black ones, while being more athletic, tend to be lazy and poorly motivated. Where is Earl when you need him?...[:D]
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    I've had two blacks and a now a blonde. She is actually smarter than the blacks.

    that's racist[:0]

    the only ones to stay away from tend to be Chesapeake Retrievers (labs). Of the ones I have run across, they tend to be the most aggressive and or protective of things for no reason.

    Yellow and black as well as choc labs are all the same as far as disposition,..each dog is different. Try the dog around the kids for a few days, it it takes to them, you got a winner.
  • leadlead Member Posts: 2,311 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We've had three in the extended family, a black, a chocolate, and now a yellow. The black was the smartest, but so aggresive with strangers my kids couldn't have visitors over unless we locked him up. My uncle's chocolate is smart, but very clingy to him. We have a yellow now that was the runt of the litter. She has the best personality, but has been really hard to train.
    All in all, you are getting a great dog in a Lab, but each is a little different, as in people.
  • HavegunJoeHavegunJoe Member Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The color makes no difference. You can get all three colors from parents of the same color. I have two chocolates. One I got from the humane society. She is smart as can be and was born to hunt. I have another I got from a breeder. Not as smart, not much of a hunter either. Both are loving dogs that I would trust with any kid. Just different personallites.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    I've had two blacks and a now a blonde. She is actually smarter than the blacks.

    that's racist[:0]

    the only ones to stay away from tend to be Chesapeake Retrievers (labs). Of the ones I have run across, they tend to be the most aggressive and or protective of things for no reason.

    Yellow and black as well as choc labs are all the same as far as disposition,..each dog is different. Try the dog around the kids for a few days, it it takes to them, you got a winner.


    I will rephrase. My Dudley Lab is smarter than the blacks.

    http://www.labrador-retriever-guide.com/dudleylab.html
  • wsfiredudewsfiredude Member Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MFI
    Hope this isnt a dumb question ...Im looking at a 18 month old Yellow lab (pure bred with papers)for the family and kids.. We have had three black labs in the past that were great dogs. Is there really any difference in these dogs in their demeanor etc depending on what color you buy ? Thanks as always..


    Go for it.

    Yellow Labs are great.[;)]

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    Sampson does some boneheaded things sometimes, but he's my pal.[;)]
  • Gunners762Gunners762 Member Posts: 530 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My two yr. ole black lab gunner 2vxomja.jpg6gy0zd.jpg
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wsfiredude
    IMG_0475.jpgHe's got the 'snow nose' thing going on.

    A good looking dog you have there. I've owned Labs for ~25 years now and currently have a small pack of them.

    They make great dogs - if you can ever get them past about 1 1/2 years old without killing them. [}:)][:D]
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    I've had two blacks and a now a blonde. She is actually smarter than the blacks.

    that's racist[:0]

    the only ones to stay away from tend to be Chesapeake Retrievers (labs). Of the ones I have run across, they tend to be the most aggressive and or protective of things for no reason.

    Yellow and black as well as choc labs are all the same as far as disposition,..each dog is different. Try the dog around the kids for a few days, it it takes to them, you got a winner.


    I will rephrase. My Dudley Lab is smarter than the blacks.

    http://www.labrador-retriever-guide.com/dudleylab.html


    101_0847.jpg[:D][:D][:D]
  • wsfiredudewsfiredude Member Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    quote:Originally posted by wsfiredude
    IMG_0475.jpgHe's got the 'snow nose' thing going on.

    A good looking dog you have there.


    Thanks.[;)]

    I need to get his weight down a little. Last time at the vet, he was pushing 130.
  • wsfiredudewsfiredude Member Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
    BTW...Shelby says hello. [^]

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    FCD,

    Excellent photo.[;)]
  • Gunners762Gunners762 Member Posts: 530 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    205vcdl.jpg Labs are great dogs and are very kid friendly.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Heres my liver eyelash, liver lipped dudley akc bird dog. She is getting better. Opening day pic, first time in the field. Limited out and she got other hunters " lost " birds also. Buck would be proud of her as a hunter. He was great but she is going to be better. Her daddy was an espn runner up two years ago.


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  • hawkeye6020hawkeye6020 Member Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have had 2 labs, one yellow the other black. The yellow was the smartest dog I have ever been around. Only had to tell him things once or twice for him to pick up what I wanted him to do. I thing he understood English as well. The black one took a lot more work but he eventually picked up on what I wanted.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    All of my yellows have been smarter and better than the blacks I've owned.
  • acdoddacdodd Member Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My chocolate escaped and got with the black lab next door.
    Both were registered with the AKC so I could register the litter.
    When I sent in the paperwork for each pup I had to indicate the color.
    Same breed, different color is all.
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
    edited November -1
    Owned a couple blacks that I thought were scary smart, but you don't really know "scary smart" til you've owned a Golden/Lab.

    I wouldn't trade him for the world.

    Great dog. He had one eye torn out by a cat as a pup, so as a one-eyed dog, he still defeneded his kids against a pit bull. Pit tore him up, he lived, the pit was terminated. Still a lovable idiot.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm thinking of going lab this time, have always had Golden (Pekay) and they were great dogs, took to the gun from day one. Even when she was on her last legs if I got the gun or the retriever trainer out she went nuts. But the shed drove me crazy, hair everywhere. Kids are after me to get another.

    When we brought our first child home from the hospital, Hobbes would sit by the crib constantly, she treated the kids like her puppies. If the baby started crying she would come find us and let us know. I miss that dog. [V]
  • Stilwater36Stilwater36 Member Posts: 223 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    To answer your question I don't want to History my 40 year in AKC-HRC field trials. Back in the early year the blacks had the field covered. Yellow started to show up in the '70s. Most of the old timers stayed away from them. They were "winers" and " squirrels". They were hard to train for the trials. Time change this because of breeding the best and they now are very good. Then came the Browns or chocolates labs.and they had a period to grow into the mainstream. Your looking for a family dog.They all can answer the call in that roll. You have a chance with a started dog,to go over and spend some time with the family and the dog. See how trained or not trained this 18 month lab is. You have had Labs and know what your look for in the dog. Color makes no difference,each dog is it 's own personally. Labs have the family traits if you see what your looking for take her or him on. Good luck.
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tommyjoe
    Kimber- Sounds like the symptoms of diabetis to me. My son has to give his dog an insulin shot every day.
    Tom
    That's what we thought too ... blood work indicated negative ... x ray showed multiple tumors in the lungs, some quite large the worst one looked to be next to her trachea ... possibly pressing against it.

    Doc wouldn't give an idea of time, said it all depended on how well we could get her to eat, however if a tumor ruptured she would likely be gone in minutes. In the last week she has feasted on chicken, hot dogs and Science Diet cancer prescription food ... and table scraps.

    I don't want her to suffer so when she get to the point of being in pain, has trouble breathing or has deteriorated to the point she can't get around I'll take her to be put down ... call me selfish but I want all the time she has to give.
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
  • john wjohn w Member Posts: 4,104
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimberkid
    I've wondered the same thing over the years.

    My Kate is a Yellow Lab/Golden Retreiver mix and she was the runt of the litter ... evidently that means nothing as she is very smart and lives to please. When I'm home she is always by my side and was the easiest dog I've ever had to house break; she knows several commands and loves to get the paper in the mornings. She is a show-off and will typically wait until someone is driving by before picking it up ... she is such a ham ... after turning 2-3 years old (out of the puppy stage) she has been very calm and always been a pleasure to be around ... she loves to sit and watch parades and fireworks.

    I took her to the vet because she has been loosing a lot of weight, drinking lots of water and has been weak and tiring easily. Unfortunately we found out she has advanced cancer and her days are few.


    I feel for you buddy. My 12 yr old doberman is on his last legs also. He still will get up and out and do his business but need a little boost going up the deck stairs. We have had to add powdered pancreatic enzimes to his food the last 5 yrs but he gained weight back and was fine. He now also has a weak flapper in his throat that when he gets excited it gasps for air but is getting enough but it will get worse. I will keep him going as long as he is comfortable.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are two breeds of dogs. Labs and everything else. I always had yellow labs because I think they are prettier than the other colors. Each dog is an individual and none are just like another, but it has nothing to do with color. You can have four colors within the same litter.

    I have an "everything else" (Australian Shepherd) now. She's barely smarter than I am.
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  • SturmgewehrSturmgewehr Member Posts: 4,420
    edited November -1
    Beautiful photos and great looking labs guys.
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    edited November -1
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  • SuspensionSuspension Member Posts: 4,783
    edited November -1
    In my opinion it's the family genes the particular dog has. Some labs are crazy and high strung and others not, doesn't matter color.
    Pic is old, but our lab Gunnar

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  • MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member Posts: 10,046 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    the only problem with my yellow is she thinks she is a lap dog
  • texaswildmantexaswildman Member Posts: 2,215 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I must agree with FCD and Stilwater. the family they come from and their training. i've always had black labs, but wouldn't hesitiate to take a yellow from a good family. you should get a pup and start there. Kind of like buying used cars with 18 months old - you get what someone else has already done....
  • GRIZZLY17GRIZZLY17 Member Posts: 1,676
    edited November -1
    I don't have one single complaint!!

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  • HavegunJoeHavegunJoe Member Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not a bit of difference. You can get any color in a litter from any color parents. Black is just more common. Labs are the best family dogs on the planet if you ask me.

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  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    The blonde ones hair doesnt show up as much on beige carpet.

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  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    The one and only time i ever have been bitten by a dog, it was a black lab,on a chain.I was on the sidewalk walking up to a school to meet a girl i was dating for her Graduation, all dressed up.The dog broke his collar, ran up and tried to get my throat(jumped) i punched with both hands but it only slowed him down.
    He wound-up biting me right on the right side of my chest.I got 7 stitches IN MY NIPPLE and 5 from his other fangs.Also nasty scrapes from his little front teeth.
    He got me right through my sport jacket cotton white shirt and a wife beater T-shirt. MAN!!! Did that ever hurt like hell.U have no idea!
    The very next night lightning hit that dog.

    I still think their the best looking,smartest and gentlest dogs on earth.I guess the chain and all the school kids buggin him all the time,was just too much for him.His collar gave out right as i was walking by, i never even noticed he was there,till he was off the ground,coming for my throat.
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