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history in the making ?

HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
edited December 2009 in General Discussion
Isn't it interesting, what some people are talking about ?


http://americanresistanceradio.com/?p=12655
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Very interesting. [;)]
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    quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 16,324
    edited November -1
    Russian Military Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin that US President Barack Obama has issued orders to his Northern Command's (USNORTHCOM) top leader, US Air Force General Gene Renuart, to "begin immediately" increasing his military forces to 1 million troops by January 30, 2010, in what these reports warn is an expected outbreak of civil war within the United States before the end of winter.
    If Obama signs our sovereignty and freedom away and brings foreign troops to suppress our freedom will you fight back? Answer this question now on our poll on top left of this site.


    According to these reports, Obama has had over these past weeks "numerous" meetings with his war council about how best to manage the expected implosion of his Nations banking system while at the same time attempting to keep the United States military hegemony over the World in what Russian Military Analysts state is a "last ditch gambit" whose success is "far from certain".
    And to Obama's "last ditch gambit", these reports continue, he is to announce in a nationwide address to his people this coming week that he is going to expand the level of US Military Forces in Afghanistan by tens of thousands of troops, while at the same time using the deployment of these soldiers as a "cover" for returning to the United States over 200,000 additional American soldiers from the over 800 bases in over 39 countries they have stationed around the Globe bringing the level of these forces in America to over 1 million, a number the US Military believes will be able to contain the "explosion of violence" expected to roil these peoples when they learn their economy has been bankrupted.
    These reports further state that at the same time Obama will be attempting to keep his Nation from violent disintegration, the tens of thousands of additional troops he will send to Afghanistan are to be ordered to Kandahar where the Americans and their NATO allies will begin their final attempt to secure their TAPI (Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India) pipeline, which without the Western Nations, due to their grave lack of alternative energy resources, and being cut off from these vast Central Asian supplies (which both Russia and China are seeking to insure), are warned will totally collapse.
    Making the American's (and by extension the West's) situation even worse are new reports coming from the International Energy Agency stating that "under pressure" from the US government they have been "deliberately underplaying" a looming Global oil shortage for fear of triggering panic buying and raising the Americans fear over the end of oil supremacy because it would threaten their power over access to our World's last remaining oil resources.
    To the scariest "end game" maneuvers being made by Obama, in his attempt to protect Americas Global hegemony, is his record shattering move in plunging the United States $3.5 Trillion further into debt, and which raises the total amount owed by the United States, to its citizens and the World, to the unprecedented height of over $106 Trillion.
    So alarming has Obama's actions become (especially since they are being imitated by all of the Western powers) that the managing-director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), Dominique Strauss-Kahn, warned this past week that the "stimulus actions" of the West (which in essence is nothing more than the printing of money with nothing to back it up) has now become a "threat to democracy" as millions of people are expected to erupt in violence against their governments over the theft of their money and their futures.
    Most unfortunately for the American people though is that this IMF warning fell on "deaf ears" in the United States with the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President, James Bullard, saying this week that the US would continue its "stimulus actions" because they "would give more flexibility to US policymakers", a most absurd statement especially when viewed in the light of the unprecedented debt payments currently looming over the American economy they have no ability whatsoever to pay.
    To the ability of the West's banking giants to save their Nation's economies, even worse news came this week with the US ratings giant Standards & Poors issuing a warning that "every single bank in Japan, the US, Germany, Spain, and Italy included in S&P's list of 45 Global lenders remain unsafe", a warning which then lead to one of Europe's largest banks, Soci?t? G?n?rale, warning its clients to prepare for a "total Global Economic Collapse".
    To the fears of Obama over the United States erupting into civil war once the full extent of the rape and pillaging of these peoples by their banks and government becomes known to them, grim evidence now shows the likelihood of this occurring much sooner than later, especially in new poll figures showing that Obama's approval rating among white Americans has now fallen to 39%. A number made more significant when one realizes that the white population of the United States comprises 74% of their estimated 398 million citizens, or put more ominously in these reports as "over 220 million American people armed to the teeth and ready to explode".
    And so fearful has the white population of the United States become that upon the election of Obama to the Presidency he was named as the "Gun Salesman of the Year" by the Outdoor Wire, the US's largest daily electronic news service for the outdoor industry, who report "panic buying" of weapons and ammunition by those fearful of the destruction of their country at the hands of man they believe is not even an American citizen and had been foisted upon them by their elite classes seeking to enslave them.
    Though the coming civil war in the United States is being virtually ignored by their propaganda media, the same cannot be said of Russia, where leading Russian political analyst, Professor Igor Panarin has long warned that the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the US is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts. Professor Igor Panarin further stated in his warning that "the US Dollar is not secured by anything. The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."
    What remains to be seen, and these reports do not speculate upon, is if the citizen-soldiers of the United States will fire upon and kill their fellow countrymen during the coming conflict, but if history is to be our guide clearly shows this will be the case as the once great American Nation continues its headlong plunge into the
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    zinkzink Member Posts: 6,456 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    HHHMMMMMM, "Let the party begin!"*

    Lance

    * Dr. Lovelace in "The ,Wild, Wild West"
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    Duce1Duce1 Member Posts: 9,329
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by zink
    HHHMMMMMM, "Let the party begin!"*

    Lance

    * Dr. Lovelace in "The ,Wild, Wild West"



    Every freedom loving American would pray that a armed conflict would be the last resort .

    Only the young and ones that never have been faced with war would want it and I personally think he then would look for the days of peace once again.

    Lets get our country back and use all means possible that are laid before us but lets also use the blood of any American spilled carefully . I will hope it never ever comes to fighting in the streets for what our forefathers have already paid for in there sweat and blood .

    The ones who die are only remembered in numbers . The ones who live make the history in there actions taken .
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    IdahoRedneckIdahoRedneck Member Posts: 2,699
    edited November -1
    It is coming there can be no way around it, I belive the military would split though.......... saddle up!
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    WCIWCI Member Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    quote:Every freedom loving American would pray For FREEDOM..the hell with what it takes to get there.

    "Live Free or DIE" ought to MEAN something....but to the cowards, the wimps, the Quislings...it means NOTHING.

    Bring on the million man traitorous army.
    Let us see if they can hold ground against the most determined enemy they ever faced... an AMERICAN , fighting for REAL freedom.not the hoked up wars of aggression and empire.
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    zinkzink Member Posts: 6,456 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Duce1
    quote:Originally posted by zink
    HHHMMMMMM, "Let the party begin!"*

    Lance

    * Dr. Lovelace in "The ,Wild, Wild West"



    Every freedom loving American would pray that a armed conflict would be the last resort .

    Only the young and ones that never have been faced with war would want it and I personally think he then would look for the days of peace once again.

    Lets get our country back and use all means possible that are laid before us but lets also use the blood of any American spilled carefully . I will hope it never ever comes to fighting in the streets for what our forefathers have already paid for in there sweat and blood .

    The ones who die are only remembered in numbers . The ones who live make the history in there actions taken .


    Duce, I in no way wish for the bloodshed, but it appears that is the way it is headed. Yes I have been there for the bloodshed and it wasn't a good time. My anscestors, going back to Myles Standish of the Mayflower, have spilled their blood for the freedoms enyoyed by generations since and I in no way intend for it to have been spilled in vain. If this means to stand up to the members of our armed forces, whether they be family or friends, then so be it.

    Lance
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    reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    quote:Every freedom loving American would pray For FREEDOM..the hell with what it takes to get there.

    "Live Free or DIE" ought to MEAN something....but to the cowards, the wimps, the Quislings...it means NOTHING.

    Bring on the million man traitorous army.
    Let us see if they can hold ground against the most determined enemy they ever faced... an AMERICAN , fighting for REAL freedom.not the hoked up wars of aggression and empire.

    you need new material[;)]
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    Duce1Duce1 Member Posts: 9,329
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    quote:Every freedom loving American would pray For FREEDOM..the hell with what it takes to get there.

    "Live Free or DIE" ought to MEAN something....but to the cowards, the wimps, the Quislings...it means NOTHING.

    Bring on the million man traitorous army.
    Let us see if they can hold ground against the most determined enemy they ever faced... an AMERICAN , fighting for REAL freedom.not the hoked up wars of aggression and empire.




    And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?

    It will be something no man would ever desire .

    Highball you have lost sight of your goal !

    It is for all of us not a few !
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    savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    or put more ominously in these reports as "over 220 million American people armed to the teeth and ready to explode".
    [:)]
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    HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
    Big difference.
    There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constutition and Bill of Rights.

    You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
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    Mr. FriendlyMr. Friendly Member Posts: 7,981
    edited November -1
    A very sad day indeed.

    I both fear the day, and fear its postponement.

    Gods will be done.
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    quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 16,324
    edited November -1
    Screw that duce, if what he states is the case, they are no longer Americans but Domestic enemies. If the military is killing civilians who are trying to keep obama from being the first dictator of America, then it is the duty of everyone who can to fight them so he cant enforce his will with impunity..



    But I think this all seems pretty far fetched to me, You see this kind of strait up bull all the time and it is meaningless, or a means to find out people delusional enough to actually believe it.
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    Mr. FriendlyMr. Friendly Member Posts: 7,981
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Duce1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    quote:Every freedom loving American would pray For FREEDOM..the hell with what it takes to get there.

    "Live Free or DIE" ought to MEAN something....but to the cowards, the wimps, the Quislings...it means NOTHING.

    Bring on the million man traitorous army.
    Let us see if they can hold ground against the most determined enemy they ever faced... an AMERICAN , fighting for REAL freedom.not the hoked up wars of aggression and empire.




    And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?

    It will be something no man would ever desire .

    Highball you have lost sight of your goal !

    It is for all of us not a few !
    They are not Americans Duce, they are something different.

    Americans are freedom loving individuals who are not afraid to work for what they want, and stand on their own two feet. The people who demand the type of change, and spread of socialism in this country do not qualify as "Americans".

    Are you one in the same with Pelosi? I hardly think that you are, nor do I believe you think her policy, and agenda are "American"
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Duce1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    quote:Every freedom loving American would pray For FREEDOM..the hell with what it takes to get there.

    "Live Free or DIE" ought to MEAN something....but to the cowards, the wimps, the Quislings...it means NOTHING.

    Bring on the million man traitorous army.
    Let us see if they can hold ground against the most determined enemy they ever faced... an AMERICAN , fighting for REAL freedom.not the hoked up wars of aggression and empire.




    And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?

    It will be something no man would ever desire .

    Highball you have lost sight of your goal !

    It is for all of us not a few !


    Americans too? Are you serious?

    WHAT exactly do they yern for? Communism? Subjigating their FELLOW citizens? Why should we SYPATHIZE with THEM? They choose to destroy ALL of us, unless we fit in their neat little box.

    You think people like Highball and I seek to destroy and subjigate people. We don't. We seek to be left the hell alone. We seek that the slimebags FOLLOW the contract to the LETTER.

    Those people you sympathize with are chaining you like a mongrel dog. They are not friends, much LESS fellow Americans. THEY ARE THE ENEMY.
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    HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Naturally, Quick;
    I have been ready for the last 35 'outbreaks of war'...that NEVER happened..over the last 30 years.
    However...That does not change the fact that I continually monitor conditions out there...just in case.

    Means a man cannot live in 'condition white'...but oh well....
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    Duce1Duce1 Member Posts: 9,329
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
    Big difference.
    There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    You will NEVER understand this..sadly.


    Problem with you is I do understand and most Americans do as well !
    My point is what will be left to fall under the " Constitution " if you get your wish ?

    I think I have a new understanding of you .

    Your not a hater Highball your a "war monger " and there is a difference .

    I am not going to make this into a pissing match between us .

    When the time comes every man women and even child will make up there own mind .
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    quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 16,324
    edited November -1
    I agree HB, and will continue to do what I do best, be bleening ready.. Civilisation is always just a month away from barbarism in my book..
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    The Ultimate InfidelThe Ultimate Infidel Member Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    do we treat traitorous subjects the same as honest citizenry? of course not. Why then would we treat ANYONE to ANYTHING but destruction if they sought to repeal our Constitutional rights as a nation.
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    Ford 23Ford 23 Member Posts: 3,129
    edited November -1
    Don't know the source or author of this, certainly appropriate for this thread




    The only enemy the American government fears is the American people.

    No enemy on earth can defeat the American government. as long as that government is supported by the people of America. The instant that support is *. The government, at least the PEOPLE in the government...are history.
    Therefore...the corrupt in power intend staying there...
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If Obama is planning on putting 1 million soldiers on American soil, he's going to have a hell of a time finding them.

    DoD has a total of 1.4 total active duty service members.
    http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/MILITARY/ms0.pdf


    If he's got a couple hundred thousand off in Iraq and Afghanistan(and a very significant portion of their "warfighters" are in that group), that leaves 1.2 million total.....and more than 300,000+ of that are sailors who wouldn't be inland anyways.

    The only ways to get his numbers are to
    a) Make a massive reserve call-up
    b) Strip every US installation around the globe bare


    Now that I think about it, option B doesn't sound bad at all....
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    HighNoonHighNoon Member Posts: 444 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    While I don't doubt we are headed for more financial trouble, why is my firewall telling me that the site with this story cannot be trusted and I should not enter any information to it?

    We clearly stand at the crossroads but we need accurate information from trusted sources (if they even exist anymore).
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    HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    quote:We clearly stand at the crossroads but we need accurate information from trusted sources (if they even exist anymore).
    Ain't gonna happen. Most of the underground out there putting out information are 'made men'.
    The government tells the truth about 20-30 percent opf the time..and NEVER about important things.
    The only thing a man can do is be AWARE..always. Keep you eyes on the horizon, and your ears tuned for lies and falsehoods.
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    kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by HighNoon
    While I don't doubt we are headed for more financial trouble, why is my firewall telling me that the site with this story cannot be trusted and I should not enter any information to it?

    We clearly stand at the crossroads but we need accurate information from trusted sources (if they even exist anymore).


    hmmmm, I would be more scared of the firewall.

    What firewall do you use?
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is clear that you want an overthrow in this country. Bloodshed beyond belief and you will be a happy camper. Meanwhile back at the ranch, China will come in and you will lick the feet of their leader or simply a bullet ( if they want to waste one ) or a sword will eliminate you once and for all.
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    kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    It is clear that you want an overthrow in this country. Bloodshed beyond belief and you will be a happy camper. Meanwhile back at the ranch, China will come in and you will lick the feet of their leader or simply a bullet ( if they want to waste one ) or a sword will eliminate you once and for all.


    The only thing clear here is the opacity of your character. Why don't you speak for yourself for a change.
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    HighNoonHighNoon Member Posts: 444 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    KYPlumber, I use Zonealarm for my firewall.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm sorry I directed that at highwall. He made the link
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    wittynbearwittynbear Member Posts: 4,518
    edited November -1
    Nice article. If he wants 1 million troops to fire on American citizens he will need at least 3 million man army, 2 out of 3 will refuse. They will then be facing about 20 million armed citizens many former military. Obama is an idiot but he's not that stupid, he would be impeached and executed for treason before he could accomplish that. I'll believe it when I see it.
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    HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Funny you should use the word 'overthrow'.
    I reckon, from a socialist/communist view, restoring the Constitution and Bill of Rights would INDEED appear to be an 'overthrow....
    But to an American, that would be a blessed event.

    Now...to address specifically your fears concerning `China'.
    Were the military to concentrate on their PRIMARY job.securing our borders.the fears you feel would never come to pass. Military leaders OUGHT to be smart enough to understand the difference between obeying socialist leaders...and American leaders.ehhh ?
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    kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by HighNoon
    KYPlumber, I use Zonealarm for my firewall.



    lol... all I will say is dont rely on ZA for net security. Check into tiny personal firewall, or maybe even kerio but zone alarm is 1 big joke.
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    quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 16,324
    edited November -1
    I've heard the beheadee's can see, feel, and hear for up to 10 seconds after they've been decapatated... Not the funnest way to go..

    but as sir Walter said, "Its a sharp fix, but one sure to cure all ills." As he felt the edge of his headsmens axe.

    Thats probably not his exact words, but who likes to say the last word of condemned men verbatem, not me thats who..
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    reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    It is clear that you want an overthrow in this country. Bloodshed beyond belief and you will be a happy camper. Meanwhile back at the ranch, China will come in and you will lick the feet of their leader or simply a bullet ( if they want to waste one ) or a sword will eliminate you once and for all.
    Are you kidding ...Highball has an Army and Air Force greater than anything ever imagined in this country...LMAO...if hot air could kill....Highball would have a patent on it....and maybe he does...as a matter of fact my guess would be he does...
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sure the hell would not be a civil war as the article reads. Maybe a coup. with some trying to overthrow the govt. we have now. IN all reality I would not call it either. Maybe chaos.
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
    Big difference.
    There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constutition and Bill of Rights.

    You will NEVER understand this..sadly.


    The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
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    redhead71redhead71 Member Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Duce1
    quote:Originally posted by zink
    HHHMMMMMM, "Let the party begin!"*

    Lance

    * Dr. Lovelace in "The ,Wild, Wild West"



    Every freedom loving American would pray that a armed conflict would be the last resort .

    Only the young and ones that never have been faced with war would want it and I personally think he then would look for the days of peace once again.

    Lets get our country back and use all means possible that are laid before us but lets also use the blood of any American spilled carefully . I will hope it never ever comes to fighting in the streets for what our forefathers have already paid for in there sweat and blood .

    The ones who die are only remembered in numbers . The ones who live make the history in there actions taken .

    Duce is 100% right on!!!
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    HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    quote:Are you kidding ...Highball has an Army and Air Force greater than anything ever imagined in this country...LMAO...if hot air could kill....Highball would have a patent on it....and maybe he does...as a matter of fact my guess would be he does...
    No army...no airforce...no nothing except the words of long dead old white guys.
    Words that have no meaning to the likes of you...words like freedom, honor, courage, ideals..Americanism at its finest.

    No..you would not...CANNOT..understand. I do not speak for the likes of you. I speak to the intelligent, the wondering, the tiny spark of understanding that grows in some few men out there.
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    reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
    Big difference.
    There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constutition and Bill of Rights.

    You will NEVER understand this..sadly.


    The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.

    nevermind....and I had a great post[V]
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    Duce1Duce1 Member Posts: 9,329
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
    Big difference.
    There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    You will NEVER understand this..sadly.


    The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.





    Who says I am against the Constitution ?

    Where did this come from ECC?

    Is it another assumption just made without asking ?

    I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?

    Now for war it is a different story .

    I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
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