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quote:Originally posted by Highball
quote:Are you kidding ...Highball has an Army and Air Force greater than anything ever imagined in this country...LMAO...if hot air could kill....Highball would have a patent on it....and maybe he does...as a matter of fact my guess would be he does...
No army...no airforce...no nothing except the words of long dead old white guys.
Words that have no meaning to the likes of you...words like freedom, honor, courage, ideals..Americanism at its finest.
No..you would not...CANNOT..understand. I do not speak for the likes of you. I speak to the intelligent, the wondering, the tiny spark of understanding that grows in some few men out there.
Just as I thought...you have never fought for anything[V]..
quote:Originally posted by wittynbear
Nice article. If he wants 1 million troops to fire on American citizens he will need at least 3 million man army, 2 out of 3 will refuse. They will then be facing about 20 million armed citizens many former military. Obama is an idiot but he's not that stupid, he would be impeached and executed for treason before he could accomplish that. I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm thinking more like 50% of the military will follow orders.
Sorry, folks, if I directed you to a wormhole. My computer gave no warning, and the fellow that sent it to me mentioned no warning. Being computer illiterate has its deep downsides.[V]
quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constutition and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
quote:Originally posted by Highball
quote:zonealarms is a NSA tool...
Whelp..that sure would make perfect sense, ehhh ?
you did nothing wrong, there is nothing wrong with that site...
I would be the first to say if there was something awry.
And I am dead serious about zonealarms being backdoor NSA software. But if you use XP or later they already have keys to your system anyways so I wouldnt sweat it.
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
quote:Originally posted by HighNoon
I'd vote for Google being the NSA backdoor.
ALL us companies MUST bow to the demands of govt, so you are correct. If you had any idea the storage capacity and the sheer scale of data collection associated with google you would be worried, and rightfully so.
But alas uncle sam knows I google * pics of stacy kiebler, I'm so ashamed I barely leave the house.. [}:)][:D]
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
go get a beer duce... relax man you are thinking to hard I can smoke emitting from your cranium from over here..
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
quote:So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Those 'Rights' END the instant a military man lines up a rifle on American people demanding a return to Constitutional government.
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
Hum !
And you say you support the " Constitution ?
So does these " Americans " have the freedom of speech in this country ?
Do they have the right to think for themselves and not like you ?
You have no true understand of freedom ?
There is no way this country will ever think all the same and have the same hopes and dreams as a collective ?
What you want to destroy in this country is what made it so strong for many years .
You really need to understand more than what you advocate ...........
quote:Originally posted by Highball
quote:So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Those 'Rights' END the instant a military man lines up a rifle on American people demanding a return to Constitutional government.
Highball...you need to write a book...and if you have share the title...
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
How about moving this nonsense over to the gun rights propaganda side?
So is the thought of a civilian uprising completely insane to you? Are you happy with the current state of our nation? Do you think the people have exhausted all the resources afforded them for the salvation of their republic? Do you think that it is not within the rights of the American people to overthrow a tyrannical government?
I am truly curious as to what you think needs to be done...
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
Hum !
And you say you support the " Constitution ?
So does these " Americans " have the freedom of speech in this country ?
Do they have the right to think for themselves and not like you ?
You have no true understand of freedom ?
There is no way this country will ever think all the same and have the same hopes and dreams as a collective ?
What you want to destroy in this country is what made it so strong for many years .
You really need to understand more than what you advocate ...........
You truly do not get it Duce...folks can speak all they want...but when it comes to action, therein lies the problem. These same so called "Americans" are ruining this nation...through actions...not through speech...and you support them! SAD
The US Constitution is to America, what the Bible is to a Christian. Anything that's outside that Constitution, or the limits set therein is part of the problem...can't you see that????????????????????????????
Let me be clear on one thing...I pray the need for this day never comes...I dread it. It will be a horrible, horrible thing...but I'm seeing less and less viable alternatives available. We desperately need to return to the Republic we are supposed to be.
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
Hum !
And you say you support the " Constitution ?
So does these " Americans " have the freedom of speech in this country ?
Do they have the right to think for themselves and not like you ?
You have no true understand of freedom ?
There is no way this country will ever think all the same and have the same hopes and dreams as a collective ?
What you want to destroy in this country is what made it so strong for many years .
You really need to understand more than what you advocate ...........
You truly do not get it Duce...folks can speak all they want...but when it comes to action, therein lies the problem. These same so called "Americans" are ruining this nation...through actions...not through speech...and you support them! SAD
The US Constitution is to America, what the Bible is to a Christian. Anything that's outside that Constitution, or the limits set therein is part of the problem...can't you see that????????????????????????????
Well thank you for clearing that up ?
Now we can just pick and choose what Americans has right under the " Constitution " and what Americans do not ?
quote:Now we can just pick and choose what Americans has right under the " Constitution " and what Americans do not ?
Now where does freedom come in
FREEDOM comes from people like ME...ones that don't give a damn WHAT you do as long as you do not harm me or mine.
What WE are discussing is a GOVERNMENT bound and determined to FORCE every swinging dick to bow the knee, here....gun control, health control, property control, SNIT IN YOUR TOILET CONTROL...never ending control...and NEVER ENOUGH FOR THEM....
quote:Originally posted by Highball
quote:Now we can just pick and choose what Americans has right under the " Constitution " and what Americans do not ?
Now where does freedom come in
FREEDOM comes from people like ME...ones that don't give a damn WHAT you do as long as you do not harm me or mine.
What WE are discussing is a GOVERNMENT bound and determined to FORCE every swinging dick to bow the knee, here....gun control, health control, property control, SNIT IN YOUR TOILET CONTROL...never ending control...and NEVER ENOUGH FOR THEM....
Who is going to pick and choose what Americans are entitled to your idea of freedom ?
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
Hum !
And you say you support the " Constitution ?
So does these " Americans " have the freedom of speech in this country ?
Do they have the right to think for themselves and not like you ?
You have no true understand of freedom ?
There is no way this country will ever think all the same and have the same hopes and dreams as a collective ?
What you want to destroy in this country is what made it so strong for many years .
You really need to understand more than what you advocate ...........
You truly do not get it Duce...folks can speak all they want...but when it comes to action, therein lies the problem. These same so called "Americans" are ruining this nation...through actions...not through speech...and you support them! SAD
The US Constitution is to America, what the Bible is to a Christian. Anything that's outside that Constitution, or the limits set therein is part of the problem...can't you see that????????????????????????????
Well thank you for clearing that up ?
Now we can just pick and choose what Americans has right under the " Constitution " and what Americans do not ?
Now where does freedom come in ?
Dude...you HAVE NO RIGHTS that run counter to the US Constitution! The Constitution does not grant ANYONE rights that run counter to itself!!! Think about it! ...actually, it doesn't grant any rights at all....it merely acknowledges them...but this is beside the point.
If something is un-Constituitional, it's un-Constitutional...period. There's no debating it.
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
Hum !
And you say you support the " Constitution ?
So does these " Americans " have the freedom of speech in this country ?
Do they have the right to think for themselves and not like you ?
You have no true understand of freedom ?
There is no way this country will ever think all the same and have the same hopes and dreams as a collective ?
What you want to destroy in this country is what made it so strong for many years .
You really need to understand more than what you advocate ...........
You truly do not get it Duce...folks can speak all they want...but when it comes to action, therein lies the problem. These same so called "Americans" are ruining this nation...through actions...not through speech...and you support them! SAD
The US Constitution is to America, what the Bible is to a Christian. Anything that's outside that Constitution, or the limits set therein is part of the problem...can't you see that????????????????????????????
Well thank you for clearing that up ?
Now we can just pick and choose what Americans has right under the " Constitution " and what Americans do not ?
Now where does freedom come in ?
Dude...you HAVE NO RIGHTS that run counter to the US Constitution! The Constitution does not grant ANYONE rights that run counter to itself!!! Think about it! ...actually, it doesn't grant any rights at all....it merely acknowledges them...but this is beside the point.
Boy I am glad you cleared that up ?
So we have no rights of freedom then ?
We all just acknowlege that freedom is there " somewhere " ?
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Naturally, Quick;
I have been ready for the last 35 'outbreaks of war'...that NEVER happened..over the last 30 years.
However...That does not change the fact that I continually monitor conditions out there...just in case.
Means a man cannot live in 'condition white'...but oh well....
Comments
quote:Are you kidding ...Highball has an Army and Air Force greater than anything ever imagined in this country...LMAO...if hot air could kill....Highball would have a patent on it....and maybe he does...as a matter of fact my guess would be he does...
No army...no airforce...no nothing except the words of long dead old white guys.
Words that have no meaning to the likes of you...words like freedom, honor, courage, ideals..Americanism at its finest.
No..you would not...CANNOT..understand. I do not speak for the likes of you. I speak to the intelligent, the wondering, the tiny spark of understanding that grows in some few men out there.
Just as I thought...you have never fought for anything[V]..
Nice article. If he wants 1 million troops to fire on American citizens he will need at least 3 million man army, 2 out of 3 will refuse. They will then be facing about 20 million armed citizens many former military. Obama is an idiot but he's not that stupid, he would be impeached and executed for treason before he could accomplish that. I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm thinking more like 50% of the military will follow orders.
Whelp..that sure would make perfect sense, ehhh ?
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constutition and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
nevermind....and I had a great post[V]
Let's hear it...[?]
quote:zonealarms is a NSA tool...
Whelp..that sure would make perfect sense, ehhh ?
you did nothing wrong, there is nothing wrong with that site...
I would be the first to say if there was something awry.
And I am dead serious about zonealarms being backdoor NSA software. But if you use XP or later they already have keys to your system anyways so I wouldnt sweat it.
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
I'd vote for Google being the NSA backdoor.
ALL us companies MUST bow to the demands of govt, so you are correct. If you had any idea the storage capacity and the sheer scale of data collection associated with google you would be worried, and rightfully so.
But alas uncle sam knows I google * pics of stacy kiebler, I'm so ashamed I barely leave the house.. [}:)][:D]
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
go get a beer duce... relax man you are thinking to hard I can smoke emitting from your cranium from over here..
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Those 'Rights' END the instant a military man lines up a rifle on American people demanding a return to Constitutional government.
How about moving this nonsense over to the gun rights propaganda side?
How about we discuss these current events right here in the GENERAL DISCUSSION forum...
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
Hum !
And you say you support the " Constitution ?
So does these " Americans " have the freedom of speech in this country ?
Do they have the right to think for themselves and not like you ?
You have no true understand of freedom ?
There is no way this country will ever think all the same and have the same hopes and dreams as a collective ?
What you want to destroy in this country is what made it so strong for many years .
You really need to understand more than what you advocate ...........
quote:So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Those 'Rights' END the instant a military man lines up a rifle on American people demanding a return to Constitutional government.
Highball...you need to write a book...and if you have share the title...
How about moving this nonsense over to the gun rights propaganda side?
So is the thought of a civilian uprising completely insane to you? Are you happy with the current state of our nation? Do you think the people have exhausted all the resources afforded them for the salvation of their republic? Do you think that it is not within the rights of the American people to overthrow a tyrannical government?
I am truly curious as to what you think needs to be done...
How about moving this nonsense over to the gun rights propaganda side?
Speaks volumes.
duce, your literary skills are making me wonder if you are a foreign transplanted SPY!!!!
Why thank you ?
Why thank you ?
why?; thank you!
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1302.htm
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
Why thank you ?
why?; thank you!
And what about your ?
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
Hum !
And you say you support the " Constitution ?
So does these " Americans " have the freedom of speech in this country ?
Do they have the right to think for themselves and not like you ?
You have no true understand of freedom ?
There is no way this country will ever think all the same and have the same hopes and dreams as a collective ?
What you want to destroy in this country is what made it so strong for many years .
You really need to understand more than what you advocate ...........
You truly do not get it Duce...folks can speak all they want...but when it comes to action, therein lies the problem. These same so called "Americans" are ruining this nation...through actions...not through speech...and you support them! SAD
The US Constitution is to America, what the Bible is to a Christian. Anything that's outside that Constitution, or the limits set therein is part of the problem...can't you see that????????????????????????????
How about moving this nonsense over to the gun rights propaganda side?
Perhaps you should visit the GR forum more often, so you may learn the difference between 'right' and privilege'.
quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
Why thank you ?
why?; thank you!
And what about your ?
lmmfao, again; Thank you!
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
Hum !
And you say you support the " Constitution ?
So does these " Americans " have the freedom of speech in this country ?
Do they have the right to think for themselves and not like you ?
You have no true understand of freedom ?
There is no way this country will ever think all the same and have the same hopes and dreams as a collective ?
What you want to destroy in this country is what made it so strong for many years .
You really need to understand more than what you advocate ...........
You truly do not get it Duce...folks can speak all they want...but when it comes to action, therein lies the problem. These same so called "Americans" are ruining this nation...through actions...not through speech...and you support them! SAD
The US Constitution is to America, what the Bible is to a Christian. Anything that's outside that Constitution, or the limits set therein is part of the problem...can't you see that????????????????????????????
Well thank you for clearing that up ?
Now we can just pick and choose what Americans has right under the " Constitution " and what Americans do not ?
Now where does freedom come in ?
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
Why thank you ?
why?; thank you!
And what about your ?
lmmfao, again; Thank you!
It is over your head and thanks for trying to change the subject matter since you can not keep up !
Now where does freedom come in
FREEDOM comes from people like ME...ones that don't give a damn WHAT you do as long as you do not harm me or mine.
What WE are discussing is a GOVERNMENT bound and determined to FORCE every swinging dick to bow the knee, here....gun control, health control, property control, SNIT IN YOUR TOILET CONTROL...never ending control...and NEVER ENOUGH FOR THEM....
It is over your head and thanks for trying to change the subject matter since you can not keep up !
like I said brotha, go get a beer.
Eric I got that email, thanks; I took notes [:D]
quote:Now we can just pick and choose what Americans has right under the " Constitution " and what Americans do not ?
Now where does freedom come in
FREEDOM comes from people like ME...ones that don't give a damn WHAT you do as long as you do not harm me or mine.
What WE are discussing is a GOVERNMENT bound and determined to FORCE every swinging dick to bow the knee, here....gun control, health control, property control, SNIT IN YOUR TOILET CONTROL...never ending control...and NEVER ENOUGH FOR THEM....
Who is going to pick and choose what Americans are entitled to your idea of freedom ?
You ?
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
Hum !
And you say you support the " Constitution ?
So does these " Americans " have the freedom of speech in this country ?
Do they have the right to think for themselves and not like you ?
You have no true understand of freedom ?
There is no way this country will ever think all the same and have the same hopes and dreams as a collective ?
What you want to destroy in this country is what made it so strong for many years .
You really need to understand more than what you advocate ...........
You truly do not get it Duce...folks can speak all they want...but when it comes to action, therein lies the problem. These same so called "Americans" are ruining this nation...through actions...not through speech...and you support them! SAD
The US Constitution is to America, what the Bible is to a Christian. Anything that's outside that Constitution, or the limits set therein is part of the problem...can't you see that????????????????????????????
Well thank you for clearing that up ?
Now we can just pick and choose what Americans has right under the " Constitution " and what Americans do not ?
Now where does freedom come in ?
Dude...you HAVE NO RIGHTS that run counter to the US Constitution! The Constitution does not grant ANYONE rights that run counter to itself!!! Think about it! ...actually, it doesn't grant any rights at all....it merely acknowledges them...but this is beside the point.
If something is un-Constituitional, it's un-Constitutional...period. There's no debating it.
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Duce1
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Americans, in that army, duce...the INSTANT they deploy here in America....not Americans.
Big difference.
There is a HUGE difference between fighting for a government...and fighting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You will NEVER understand this..sadly.
The moment an American Soldier deploys on US soil to suppress the American people, he becomes an enemy combatant. Do you remember the oath you once took Duce?...it was to the Constitution...not the gov't...not the President...not the military...the Constitution.
Who says I am against the Constitution ?
Where did this come from ECC?
Is it another assumption just made without asking ?
I would like and I invite anyone to show me one time I have stated I am against the Constitution ?
Now for war it is a different story .
I have well stated we need to do everything to avoid it but not take it off the table if needed to return our rights.
Go back up and reread what you wrote then, Duce. We do NOT have to respect the ideals of other "Americans", if they run counter to our Constitution. They are part of the problem and should be dealt with, as such.
So since I believe all Americans deserve the rights of the " Constitution " makes me a non-believer in the " Constitution "
I think you have no understand what all the " Constitution " guarantees every American !
Duce...here is what you said:
quote:And your not seeing that the ones on the side that you hate are also Americans determined in there goal ?
We have no desire to see the "ones on the side that" hate, or do not believe in the Constitution as it is written. The ONLY folks who stand on moral high ground regarding this issue are the folks who stand behind the Constitution. There is NO middle ground when it comes to this subject.
Hum !
And you say you support the " Constitution ?
So does these " Americans " have the freedom of speech in this country ?
Do they have the right to think for themselves and not like you ?
You have no true understand of freedom ?
There is no way this country will ever think all the same and have the same hopes and dreams as a collective ?
What you want to destroy in this country is what made it so strong for many years .
You really need to understand more than what you advocate ...........
You truly do not get it Duce...folks can speak all they want...but when it comes to action, therein lies the problem. These same so called "Americans" are ruining this nation...through actions...not through speech...and you support them! SAD
The US Constitution is to America, what the Bible is to a Christian. Anything that's outside that Constitution, or the limits set therein is part of the problem...can't you see that????????????????????????????
Well thank you for clearing that up ?
Now we can just pick and choose what Americans has right under the " Constitution " and what Americans do not ?
Now where does freedom come in ?
Dude...you HAVE NO RIGHTS that run counter to the US Constitution! The Constitution does not grant ANYONE rights that run counter to itself!!! Think about it! ...actually, it doesn't grant any rights at all....it merely acknowledges them...but this is beside the point.
Boy I am glad you cleared that up ?
So we have no rights of freedom then ?
We all just acknowlege that freedom is there " somewhere " ?
Naturally, Quick;
I have been ready for the last 35 'outbreaks of war'...that NEVER happened..over the last 30 years.
However...That does not change the fact that I continually monitor conditions out there...just in case.
Means a man cannot live in 'condition white'...but oh well....
This speaks volumes!
if it weren't so sad it would be comical.