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Anyone Watching "9/11: Science and Conspiracy"
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It's on National Geographic. They are examining all the conspiracy theories about 9/11. These conspiracy theorists will not believe anything except their cockeyed theories, even when they are proven wrong!
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Skepticism is a good thing. But not against all evidence.
Now that there's a million channels, lots of crap gets broadcast!
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http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
http://www.ae911truth.org/
And for the sake of argument I will throw in the official explanation from the report.
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf
Nat Geo as well as the Military History channel have been spewing out BS since Bush's setup to leave office.
BTW, what would be the point of having the buildings come down? Isn't flying planes into them & killing a few thousand people bad enough?
BTW, what would be the point of having the buildings come down? Isn't flying planes into them & killing a few thousand people bad enough?
The point of having the buildings come down is to remove the evidence.
That place was a crime scene, yet it was scooped up and hauled away before so much as a hint of an investigation could take place.
You convinced me ----
Bush was behind the Conspiracy
I just wonder how he paid off all those other
2 or 3 hundred people involved --- to keep them quiet --
Do you think he had time to set the explosives himself ???
Maybe Dick helped him --- what do you think ???
Lee
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
BTW, what would be the point of having the buildings come down? Isn't flying planes into them & killing a few thousand people bad enough?
The point of having the buildings come down is to remove the evidence.
That place was a crime scene, yet it was scooped up and hauled away before so much as a hint of an investigation could take place.
Buy me a vowel because OH MY GOSH.
Please tell me you're joking.
Where was Obama on 9/11?
Meeting with the Council on Foreign Relations and the Tri-Lateral Commission, of course.
DUH. [:o)]
Lee
You know who I'd like to hear from? The guys who actually wire buildings to demo them. It's nice to hear from the engineers and guys with degrees, but I wonder exactly what's involved in doing the hard work of wiring a huge building with explosives to make it collapse? And how it can be done in secret in a fully functioning office building without the tenants driving the building manager's office up the wall with complaints and phone calls.
Good question. I was going to stay up and watch this one but I needed some sleep. If we look back at march of 01, the elevators got some refurbishment. Ace Elevator Co. provided the work and the man power and they were the only ones with access to the core columns. No big deal at first glance right? Then why did they have armed security personel gaurding the elevators? And who was on the board of trustees for this security firm? None other than a member of the Bush family.
I should also remind you that his sort of event has happened before with the Gulf of Tonken incident. Recently released FIOA documents prove that it was also a staged event.
I'm with Jesse Ventura on this one. He used to blow stuff up and if he says something is more than a little fishy about this, well....
EM ----
You convinced me ----
Bush was behind the Conspiracy
I just wonder how he paid off all those other
2 or 3 hundred people involved --- to keep them quiet --
Do you think he had time to set the explosives himself ???
Maybe Dick helped him --- what do you think ???
Lee
It would have had to involve a lot more people than that.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=397296
Lee
got proof?
...You just nailed it with the word "proof", those that can not locate two brain cells to save their life, do not have nor will ever put forth "proof" because none exsists to support the theory 9/11 was anything other than it was, a terrorist attack.
The truthers show a total lack in ability to grasp anything other than that which is embarrassingly simple. No way no how would there have not been det cord and other assorted debris from a controlled demolition present after an implosion.
Monkey, joking or just ill informed? Almost every single POUND of debris from Ground Zero was combed by authorities off site and the debris was HAND searched for evidence and human bone...so that "hauled off before an investigation" is utter BS and dont fly.
To by into and further this truther BS is despicable, un-American and the truthers should have the living poop beat out of 'em right before being deported. To denigrate the lives lost and the attack on this Country in that manner of stupidity by the entirely ignorant is beyond disgusting...[;)]
But wait ther's more. Why did Tom Kenney (director of FEMA at the time) arrive in New York on monday the 10th? I suppose that you also believe the official story about the london subway bombings? Do the research. Take a stand. If you need more I'm fully stocked with ammo, just let me adjust my TF hat.
I am willing to watch a video listen to a commentator or even read a book but I am not willing to pay for it.
Oh to get off the subject, anyone else beside me going to see Elvis this weekend in Vegas?[8D]
Alcoa Aluminum reporting record profits among rampant conspiracy theories evolving from the 911 terrorist bombings and recent sightings of Elvis in Jamaica.
The aluminum foil division of Alcoa is responsible for 99% of these massive sales increase after the conspiracy theorist (C.T.s) meet for a convention in Jamaica. This is thought to be due to the official headdress being a foil hat.
The CT membership experienced a 10 fold increase in membership after partaking of Jamaica's number one cash crop. Coincidently, Jamaican hospitals were full of people with minor 1st and 2nd degree burns on their index finger and thumb. The foil hats had created a shortage of aluminum required to make the device known as a 'roach' clip, which further fueled the CT's who now believe George W. Bush had secretly laced their medicinal marijuana via spray clouds from black painted aircraft contrails.
The owner of the whole complex Larry Silverstein said he ,and the authorities decided to pull it. They must just work fast!
Didn't "they" say it was the heat from the other building?
How far apart were the buildings?
That's amazing!!!!!!
So then to all you non tin foil hat expert's. WHY did building 7 fall?
The owner of the whole complex Larry Silverstein said he ,and the authorities decided to pull it. They must just work fast!
WTC 7 Collapse
Claim: Seven hours after the two towers fell, the 47-story WTC 7 collapsed. According to 911review.org: "The video clearly shows that it was not a collapse subsequent to a fire, but rather a controlled demolition: amongst the Internet investigators, the jury is in on this one."
Fire Storm: WTC 7 stands amid the rubble of the recently collapsed Twin Towers. Damaged by falling debris, the building then endures a fire that rages for hours. Experts say this combination, not a demolition-style implosion, led to the roofline "kink" that signals WTC 7's progressive collapse. (Photograph by New York Office of Emergency Management)
FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom - approximately 10 stories - about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.
NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.
According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."
There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.
Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."
WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors - along with the building's unusual construction - were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.
But he found people Clever enough to
know just where the two planes were going to hit --
{Unless you believe one theory that the images of
the planes flying into the buildings were 3D holograms}
Oh --- If the weight of the buildings above the fires
were not the reason for the building to collapse ----
WHY DID THE SECOND BUILDING THAT WAS HIT 20 TO 30 MINUTES
AFTER THE FIRST ---- COME DOWN FIRST
Lee
OJ did it.
Oswald did it alone.
A bunch of Muslim scum did it.
A storm hit New Oleans.
Grow up fool.
I am sure many of these same folks find Christmas to be quite frustrating due to the distracting nature of the shimmering tinsel on the trees.
Bush and the 10,000 other co-conspirators have really hit a home run this time!!! [:0]
NS
Many explosions.
Explosions in the basement BEFORE the plane hit.
Boom boom boom boom boom in an evenly-spaced succession.
I feel sorry for folks that fall for and believe what comes out of the heavily-funded propaganda machine.
The TRUTH shall make you free.
First, that TRUTH will help you to see how imprisoned you are.
You call me names.
I care not what you think of me.
Did you watch 9/11: Science and Conspiracy on the NATGEO Channel?
Just curious what you think after having watched the show.
NS
Who paid for the show?
Who's agenda was behind it?
william911.com
Many explosions.
Explosions in the basement BEFORE the plane hit.
Boom boom boom boom boom in an evenly-spaced succession.
I feel sorry for folks that fall for and believe what comes out of the heavily-funded propaganda machine.
The TRUTH shall make you free.
First, that TRUTH will help you to see how imprisoned you are.
You call me names.
I care not what you think of me.
Boom, boom? Really? My cousin was in tower two when the plane hit. He was there when both towers came down. Right there. He never heard no boom, boom, boom. That's a firsthand account of someone who was there. Were you there? did you hear the booms? Who do you know who was there? Nobody I bet.
I did not watch it.
Who paid for the show?
Who's agenda was behind it?
Look brotha I'm not attacking you. I am merely asking if you watched the show this thread was discussing. I am curious to know what "truthers" have to say about the NATGEO special.... that's all.
If you have a few extra minutes over the next few weeks, check it out and let us know what you think about their special. I personally found it to be quite objective and backed by a considerable amount of testing for both hypotheses.
NS
Who paid for the show?
Who's agenda was behind it?
I bet it was Halliburton
Lee
guns-n-painthorses... your cousin MUST be part of the conspiracy as well!!!!! [;)]
I mean why should we believe his FIRST PERSON account of that day, at that location, at that exact time?!?!?!
{Sarcasm off}
BTW, I seriously hope he has recovered from the events of that day.
NS