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Why do people in Cali refuse to organize?
Dean Cascio
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Gun owners in Cali like Zipp sit here on GB and post away all day long but they refuse to organise and repeal the insane gun laws in Cali.
Why do feel that they are so disabled.
Dean
DON'T SELL GUNS TO CALIFORNIA
Why do feel that they are so disabled.
Dean
DON'T SELL GUNS TO CALIFORNIA
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Gun owners in CA ARE ORGANIZED.......there just aren't too many of them.
What should they do? Just start shooting people to get results? If you are in the minority, you are pretty helpless.
Merc (who lived in CA quite a few years.......and DOES know what he is talking about)
quote:Originally posted by Dean Cascio
Gun owners in Cali like Zipp sit here on GB and post away all day long but they refuse to organise and repeal the insane gun laws in Cali.
Why do feel that they are so disabled.
Dean
DON'T SELL GUNS TO CALIFORNIA
Gun owners in CA ARE ORGANIZED.......there just aren't too many of them.
Yeah, they are organized, organized to bend over and take it up the poop shoot.
The American Revolution would never have happened if people were content and enjoyed personal freedoms such as we still have but are slowly losing. They were pissed off enough to stand up and DO something about their tyrannical government. Maybe enough Californians will have the balls to stand up against theirs. I truly hope so.
There are those who cry "If you don't ship guns to California, you are playing into their hands and doing exactly what "they" want you to do!!!". I agree with that statement. However, maybe FFL's refusing to ship guns to California will incite gun owners to get off their azzes and do something about it. That's exactly what "they" DON'T want you to do nor believe you will because California is a dictatorship and the "sheeple" keep doing exactly what they are told without question. As Californians, YOU need to prove them wrong.
The American Revolution would never have happened if people were content and enjoyed personal freedoms such as we still have but are slowly losing. They were pissed off enough to stand up and DO something about their tyrannical government. Maybe enough Californians will have the balls to stand up against theirs. I truly hope so.
OH OH I have idea....... lets help our brothers....
To all Cali folk, i live in WV, If there is anything i can do to help your situation i would be glad to do it.
Contribute a few bucks to feinsteins campaign, for instance. CA is hopeless, it has crossed the rubicon years ago and there's no going back.
I think if we have enough Southern Migration which brings MS-13 and other gangs. There won't be a call for mass armerment of private citizen and by then it'll be too late. I am looking forward to California going back to the Wild, Wild West that was Oakland or East Palo Alto back in the '80's. It'll be a sad day and a great day when Boxer or Fienstiene telling the resident of California that "if you want to be safe go buy a gun 'cos no cops are coming".
To all Cali folk, i live in WV, If there is anything i can do to help your situation i would be glad to do it.
I agree and I think most people in here will support you. However, somebody in California needs to make some noise. Draw up a sensible petition to your Senators, Congressman, Governor and legislators. Contact your firearms associations and the NRA. Clog up their fax machines and e-mails with the petition and letters. You wil get attention. I know, believe me. I've done it in a different scenario and got called to the Pentagon scared sheetless. However, we stood our ground and, in the end, we prevailed.
Or split it up and reduce it's power. As I understand it the eastern 1/2 of the state is not as liberal as the rest. Take away even 1/3 of California's power in the Federal Government and it would make a big difference in the direction this country is going. It would be interesting to split the costal region off then split the eastern portion north and south. You'd probably end up with one ultra liberal state, one moderate and possibly one on the edge of conservative.
I've often wondered if their shouldn't be a ceiling for representation from any given state to prevent small pockets of high population from dictating, on a federal level, what is going on in areas without similar problems and interests
quote:the US should remove CA from voting in elections and remove them from congress, keep it as a territory, but nothing more than that.
Or split it up and reduce it's power. As I understand it the eastern 1/2 of the state is not as liberal as the rest.
Useless. If the rest of the state cared enough, they would've changed something a while back and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I moved from Cali last October. I'm a 3rd generation Californian. I've been more politically active then any non-office holder I know. I've been fighting gun control since the Stockton school shooting. (That's 1989 you tard!) Gun owners are not a small minority in Cali.
Taken as a whole they are a large minority. The problem is they refuse to organise. I've been/was a grass roots organiser for the NRA, CPRA and GOA member. I've been a member of JEOF since its founding. I think my background gives me a good understanding of the problem.
You know how many times I PM members here on GB who listed their residents in their profile as Cali to come to functions? Just ask that loudmouth Zipp!
The Americans left in Cali are truly in a hard spot, but they refuse to do anything about it. Could you please and I'm serious here, please list one thing you've done to help support gun rights/Second Amendment in the last year
I guess it's easy to be a keyboard commando and puff yourself up on GB. Get off the Internet and do something before its to late!
The people of Cali are Zombie like walking around in a dream like state thinking their Socialist government Nanny-State will take care of them! The rest of America needs to cut Cali off until they pull themselves up by the boot straps and get some real pro Americans in office.
Dean The ex-Cali native that know what the hell he's talking/writing about!
If you love America please DON'T SEND GUNS TO CALIFORNIA! There is a cultural war going on if you realize it or not. The battle front is in Cali but the war is for the soul of America.
PLEASE DON'T SEND GUNS TO CALIFORNIA!
quote:Originally posted by Mercury
Yet someone else running their mouth when they have NO CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!
Gun owners in CA ARE ORGANIZED.......there just aren't too many of them.
What should they do? Just start shooting people to get results? If you are in the minority, you are pretty helpless.
Merc (who lived in CA quite a few years.......and DOES know what he is talking about)
quote:Originally posted by Dean Cascio
Gun owners in Cali like Zipp sit here on GB and post away all day long but they refuse to organise and repeal the insane gun laws in Cali.
Why do feel that they are so disabled.
Dean
DON'T SELL GUNS TO CALIFORNIA
CA gun owners are no more apathetic than are those in other states. They are at the mercy of the Leftists running the state.
Too old to live...too young to die...
Conservatives, gun owners, Republicans and those who believe in the Constitution as written are grossly OUTNUMBERED in California. The Leftists are a voting majority. That's the way it is.
CA gun owners are no more apathetic than are those in other states. They are at the mercy of the Leftists running the state.
Damn people, where do you get your numbers from? How do you figure that "Conservatives, gun owners, Republicans" are outnumbered? I can provide you with some real numbers, now can you back up your claims with anything factual?
And yes, they are damn apathetic.
...SO, what you are saying is that uh...in San-Fran-Freako/La-Loko-Angeles for instance, that there are more of these homo's that have organized and CHANGED/INACTED laws for the entire STATE..OUT NUMBER the gun-nuts spread over the ENTIRE State????? [:0] I'd HAVE to move...[;)]
merc quote:Gun owners in CA ARE ORGANIZED.......there just aren't too many of them.
...SO, what you are saying is that uh...in San-Fran-Freako/La-Loko-Angeles for instance, that there are more of these homo's that have organized and CHANGED/INACTED laws for the entire STATE..OUT NUMBER the gun-nuts spread over the ENTIRE State????? [:0] I'd HAVE to move...[;)]
An excellent point, Colt. Gay rights, gay marriages, legalized marijuana - I hope those people do not represent the majority of Californians. However, they got what they wanted, didn't they? It takes commitment, determination and tenacity.
Are you trying to "punish" the gun owners.
You are a self-rightous fool.
Guess what, being right next to ultra liberal Washington and Oregon, you state is next my man. I think you will see exactly how organized your fellow man is in the next ten years or so.
Just give it time.
quote:Originally posted by Rockatansky
quote:Originally posted by Doc
Conservatives, gun owners, Republicans and those who believe in the Constitution as written are grossly OUTNUMBERED in California. The Leftists are a voting majority. That's the way it is.
CA gun owners are no more apathetic than are those in other states. They are at the mercy of the Leftists running the state.
Damn people, where do you get your numbers from? How do you figure that "Conservatives, gun owners, Republicans" are outnumbered? I can provide you with some real numbers, now can you back up your claims with anything factual?
And yes, they are damn apathetic.
Well, let's see YOUR numbers . . .
No. let's see yours first. but I doubt you will cause it's only your pathetic excuse used since I first lived in CA that poor conservatives, republicans, etc. in the states are always outnumbered. And from talking to some older generation people, it's been going on since before Reagan time. It's all you do -- complain, and don't do jack chit about the political situation. see the example about gays above.
I agree, Plese don't sell guns to California. That way if the people of this state can not buy guns from you they will have to buy them from me. We sold 4800 guns in the first year of business, I wonder how many more we could do if there is nobody from out of state to buy from? Oh boy, I'm going to have to open a new wing!
quote:If you love America please DON'T SEND GUNS TO CALIFORNIA!
I agree, Plese don't sell guns to California. That way if the people of this state can not buy guns from you they will have to buy them from me. We sold 4800 guns in the first year of business, I wonder how many more we could do if there is nobody from out of state to buy from? Oh boy, I'm going to have to open a new wing!
I wonder how long before all you'll be selling will be water guns.
There is too big of a market on Airsoft and Paintball to just work with water guns
quote:I wonder how long before all you'll be selling will be water guns.
There is too big of a market on Airsoft and Paintball to just work with water guns
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noun
a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
So that maybe you'll think a bit before making statements next time.
The gun owners in Cali refuse to get off of their butts.
As for the FFL holders in Cali or the ones outside of Cali who still sell to Cali well good luck you tards! Your killing the goose that laid the golden egg. You're just like the US car industry in the early 70's. You are willing to take some short term profits at the expense of your long term survival! Duh!!!
The people of Cali need to wake up! Oh I forgot I'm hurting your feeling because no one is allowed to speak/write the truth in politically correct California.
quote:You are a self-rightous fool.
See Supra. I'm self-righteous because I'm fighting for America? Good logic there buddy! You can't even put forth a logical argument![;)]
As for the tard who wrote that it's going to happen across all of America well DUH!! Have you read anything I've written?? We need to stop it now!!!
Now for the guy who wrote that I can't tell people what to do with their gun. Bite me guy! Someone needs to stand up for what is right!! You guys can't organize poop and your going to take the whole country with you.
What have you done for the cause?
Dean
DON'T SELL GUNS TO CALIFORNIA!
... you are a fool ... what a waste of space.
Like I wrote before Zipp 30492 Posts and you can't pull yourself away form the keyboard to do poop for the cause. You should really be proud of yourself.
quote:what a waste of space.
You can read and have very good grammar[:D] Don't like what I write don't read it[;)]
Dean
quote:If you love America please DON'T SEND GUNS TO CALIFORNIA!
I agree, Plese don't sell guns to California. That way if the people of this state can not buy guns from you they will have to buy them from me. We sold 4800 guns in the first year of business, I wonder how many more we could do if there is nobody from out of state to buy from? Oh boy, I'm going to have to open a new wing!
Like I wrote here is a perfect example.
Dean
I'm not the one claiming to have numbers.
You're just making an unsupported claim.
From our Declaration of Independence.
Anyone remember it?
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." --John Hancock
From our Declaration of Independence.
Anyone remember it?
Definitely not CA residents, and absolutely not those who have come here to better their financial situation.
Which claim would that be? All I said was that the CRPA was an example of organized gun owners in California. Do you dispute the existence of this group?
You = collective CA-ains on this board, who are whining about how their are outnumbered by fairies and commies.