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Smoke vs. Hunting success
Mr. Perfect
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I was wondering if folks could share their experiences on this. I'd like to compile some anecdotal data. Does cigarette, cigar, or campfire smoke work as a cover scent? Hunting deer and or elk.
The possibilities I see are yes, because it confuses the animal.
Yes, because they are drawn to burn areas.
No, because the animals are conditioned to associate it with humans.
No, because the cover scent is not complete enough.
No, because it is highly pungent and can be smelled further than without it.
No, scent elimination is key to success.
Possibly we can weed out a few choices.
The possibilities I see are yes, because it confuses the animal.
Yes, because they are drawn to burn areas.
No, because the animals are conditioned to associate it with humans.
No, because the cover scent is not complete enough.
No, because it is highly pungent and can be smelled further than without it.
No, scent elimination is key to success.
Possibly we can weed out a few choices.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
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And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I have watched as a * came to my trail and turned tail to leave.
Some deer paid no attention to it and others treated it like poison.
I have had deer blow at me in the woods down wind.
Our smell is what it is and can not be hidden.
Remember what the veet cong said americans smelled like.
I don't know why.
A buck chasing a doe will go through a Mc Donalds restaurant in pursuit.
My only path to a 10ft ladder stand was across a field.
I have watched as a * came to my trail and turned tail to leave.
Some deer paid no attention to it and others treated it like poison.
I have had deer blow at me in the woods down wind.
Our smell is what it is and can not be hidden.
Remember what the veet cong said americans smelled like.
I don't know why.
A buck chasing a doe will go through a Mc Donalds restaurant in pursuit.
Was at a car show near a lake. Woods to the right and behind us. Out of the woods runs a doe wide open.. right past the BBQ pit serving food and lots of folks.. right toward the show cars.. and in the woods. 5 seconds later a huge buck ran across the parking lot like he owned it in pursuit.
A buck chasing a doe will go through a Mc Donalds restaurant in pursuit.
very true.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Doe and young bucks (1-2 year olds) could care less what you are doing or how you smell around here. I have saw them come within 50' and hang around while I have been out mowing, cutting firewood, weed eating, running a dozer.
Take these for example. We can be sitting on the front porch of the cabin, People drinking beer, smoking, talking loudly, walk around, slamming the screen door all while a fire burns in the fire pit.
They could care less.
You take the mature Bucks and it is a different story. You can see them. Once they realize that you are human either by sight or smell. They are gone.
I wonder how it is that for a century guys have hunted deer with .30-30s while wearing jeans and red plaid jackets, but now we need scent lock gillie suits, and precision bean field rifles.
I have to laugh.....I bought a Model 70, in 25WSSM, to increase my range over the 30-30 I was using when hunting hayfields. Of nearly a dozen deer I have killed with it, the longest shot has been about 70 yards.[:D]
Perhaps learning to be a better hunter was more important that the rifle or cartridge I was using.
After smoking for 37 years (I quit 3.5 years ago), it doesn't seem to me to have made much difference.
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
so few people smoke anymore that I doubt deer equate cigarettes to humans.
That is it right there. The deer have to equate the smoke smell or any smell for that matter with danger.
I used to smoke and we never went hungry but, I've killed a lot more since I quit, especially with the bow.
I will never know the deer I didn't see because of smoking.
If the deer is upwind, what does it matter?
Because they aren't always upwind.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
woods,I think the deer don't know which way to turn.
Some use smoke as a cover scent.
I do this. If you do some research on the subject, you will find many folks doing this. Arkansas bow opener was Saturday. Friday I lit a small oak fire, and placed my ground blind over it, with my clothes, boots, climber and backpack inside. While paddling in Saturday morning, I turned my headlight on and had a doe directly downwind of me, 7 yards away on the bank. After setting up, I had another doe come by, and she left downwind. I did notice that she was curious of the smell, but never spooked.
It is by far better to stay downwind of the deer, but it's not always possible with these Arkansas winds. Not sure what a mature buck will do, but if the smoke keeps the does calm for a longer time, the better my chance to arrow the buck.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
However, I have watched my Dad drop a 10 pt buck- while Dad was smoking.
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
If the deer is upwind, what does it matter?
Because they aren't always upwind.
True. If they are downwind, you better get to throwin' lead, smoking or not. So again, what does it matter?
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by MG1890
If the deer is upwind, what does it matter?
Because they aren't always upwind.
True. If they are downwind, you better get to throwin' lead, smoking or not. So again, what does it matter?
Because they are not always within range. And while I am fairly adept at hitting deer sized targets out to 1000 yards, I don't consider my skill level high enough to make clean kills consistently, and even if I were, I'd prefer to be closer. Make sense?
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain