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Another Confederate Flag Protest
riflemike
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I posted this morning about an African who was offended by an American flag in Texas.
How about this. I'm offended by the NAACP. They must remove all their signs, logos and display of NAACP. Otherwise I'll ask The ACLU to sue them.
2. Not that many black people watch NASCAR, so how is flying it at NASCAR stopping the advancement the colored peoples?
There are plenty of groups for that:
1. White Aryan Resistance
2. National Socialist Movement
3. Aryan Nation
4. KKK
5. Storm Front
6. Hammer Skins
7. Nazi Low Riders
8. Aryan Brotherhood
and many more. You even have a holiday April 20th. Stop crying and start joining.
CAN'T agree with that.
Doug
quote:I just wonder how many people would support a NAAWP organization? Have a whites only college fund. Have a white history month. Official flag could be the confederate flag in the south.
There are plenty of groups for that:
1. White Aryan Resistance
2. National Socialist Movement
3. Aryan Nation
4. KKK
5. Storm Front
6. Hammer Skins
7. Nazi Low Riders
8. Aryan Brotherhood
and many more. You even have a holiday April 20th. Stop crying and start joining.
How many of those organizations get media coverage because they've decided to boycott the NBA or the next hip hop awards?
The efforts of the Confederate Govt were not an attempt to destroy the Union- but to withdraw from it. An undertaking they had been assured they could do.
If I work for a company, and quit, that should not be considered an effort to destroy that company. It IS an effort to leave.
BTW, the South DID fire the first shot of the war (if you don't count John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry) WHY did they fire on Ft. Sumter?
Junior Member
354 Posts
Posted - 05/27/2009 : 3:13:10 PM
I would join the NAAWP in a second. The difference "pig" would be a group that is pro white not starting out as a hate group and then back paddling. I for years have wondered why there is BET and so on. My ancestors also where not traitors they where simply people that stood up for what they believed in and did not feel they needed big brother telling them what to do. Obviously you are on the other side of that equation.
Here you go: http://naawp.org.tripod.com/index.html
Please post your membership confirmation...And you do have your own TV channel, its called CMT.
Everybody here says slavery wasn't the reason behind, and you go and prove that it was.
The Super (to a little kid who is afraid that his soap-box racer might be stolen by someone):
"I have this big chain we can use. This chain is symbolic of the chains which kept your people in bondage for 300 years. And it is this same chain that will keep the same people from stealing your soap-box racer."
If only a few more people would put the up-tight part where it still needs to be, and there are still some problems, like a racist EEOC, instead of focusing on the red herrings like NASCAR races...
Also the ad for meeting Black singles on their site was a nice touch.
As Americans, I believe we should honor each others race, culture, and identity. This country hasn't always lived up to it's mantra, but damnit we try and we will continue to get better......But I still think that flag is a POS.
Ya got to be s&*^%%% me ! You just said we ought to honor each other. Make up yur daggone mind !
Starting Member
31 Posts
Posted - 05/27/2009 : 3:55:33 PM
I hate that the Stars and Bars has been perverted by it use by less than enlightened organizations. I disagree that it was a traitor's flag. I think the Confederate States really believed they had a right to witdraw from the union. No doubt there have been atrocities comiited under it's flight. But the same criticism can be said of many flags. I won't fly it simply out of respect for the people it does offend. That being said, as long as they let it offend them, they will never truly be free. As long as any symbol or word can cause you pain or discomfort, you are owned by the symbol or word and the people who use them. As for the pretenders and want to be victims, the time has come for them to move on. If one of us rednecks can offend you by flying the Stars and Bars that is more a reflection on you than us. Yes I am a redneck, born and bred. I'm raising another generation of beer drinkin', hot roddin', gun totin', good ole boys too. BUT, they are taught, as I was, to courtesy others until they prove they are not worthy of courtesy. That is not to say we are willing to bow down before them, just that I feel all people deserve a certain amount of courtesy as long as they are courteous in return.
Edited by - pit_viper_53 on 05/27/2009 4:01:11 PM
Sir...HOW DARE YOU!!! How dare you SIR, bring reason and logic into GB. It has no place here!!!!! I demand satisfaction. Post the lyric to Satisfaction followed by some asinine worded rant about how the AK47 is more accurate than a SKS.
Next thing you know somebody will be suing flag companies for making them.
Nor do I consider the flag as a traitors flag,but I'm not surprised that someone does. Enough said,my opinion won't change anyone elses mind.
I hate that the Stars and Bars has been perverted by it use by less than enlightened organizations. I disagree that it was a traitor's flag. I think the Confederate States really believed they had a right to witdraw from the union. No doubt there have been atrocities comiited under it's flight. But the same criticism can be said of many flags. I won't fly it simply out of respect for the people it does offend. That being said, as long as they let it offend them, they will never truly be free. As long as any symbol or word can cause you pain or discomfort, you are owned by the symbol or word and the people who use them. As for the pretenders and want to be victims, the time has come for them to move on. If one of us rednecks can offend you by flying the Stars and Bars that is more a reflection on you than us. Yes I am a redneck, born and bred. I'm raising another generation of beer drinkin', hot roddin', gun totin', good ole boys too. BUT, they are taught, as I was, to courtesy others until they prove they are not worthy of courtesy. That is not to say we are willing to bow down before them, just that I feel all people deserve a certain amount of courtesy as long as they are courteous in return.
I suspect that you are confusing the Stars & Bars and the Battle Flag.
pit_viper_53
Starting Member
31 Posts
Posted - 05/27/2009 : 3:55:33 PM
I hate that the Stars and Bars has been perverted by it use by less than enlightened organizations. I disagree that it was a traitor's flag. I think the Confederate States really believed they had a right to witdraw from the union. No doubt there have been atrocities comiited under it's flight. But the same criticism can be said of many flags. I won't fly it simply out of respect for the people it does offend. That being said, as long as they let it offend them, they will never truly be free. As long as any symbol or word can cause you pain or discomfort, you are owned by the symbol or word and the people who use them. As for the pretenders and want to be victims, the time has come for them to move on. If one of us rednecks can offend you by flying the Stars and Bars that is more a reflection on you than us. Yes I am a redneck, born and bred. I'm raising another generation of beer drinkin', hot roddin', gun totin', good ole boys too. BUT, they are taught, as I was, to courtesy others until they prove they are not worthy of courtesy. That is not to say we are willing to bow down before them, just that I feel all people deserve a certain amount of courtesy as long as they are courteous in return.
Edited by - pit_viper_53 on 05/27/2009 4:01:11 PM
Sir...HOW DARE YOU!!! How dare you SIR, bring reason and logic into GB. It has no place here!!!!! I demand satisfaction. Post the lyric to Satisfaction followed by some asinine worded rant about how the AK47 is more accurate than a SKS.
Sir: I will stand as your second.
As the challenged you have the choice of weapon's I would suggest dirty bath water at five paces
quote:Originally posted by pit_viper_53
I hate that the Stars and Bars has been perverted by it use by less than enlightened organizations. I disagree that it was a traitor's flag. I think the Confederate States really believed they had a right to witdraw from the union. No doubt there have been atrocities comiited under it's flight. But the same criticism can be said of many flags. I won't fly it simply out of respect for the people it does offend. That being said, as long as they let it offend them, they will never truly be free. As long as any symbol or word can cause you pain or discomfort, you are owned by the symbol or word and the people who use them. As for the pretenders and want to be victims, the time has come for them to move on. If one of us rednecks can offend you by flying the Stars and Bars that is more a reflection on you than us. Yes I am a redneck, born and bred. I'm raising another generation of beer drinkin', hot roddin', gun totin', good ole boys too. BUT, they are taught, as I was, to courtesy others until they prove they are not worthy of courtesy. That is not to say we are willing to bow down before them, just that I feel all people deserve a certain amount of courtesy as long as they are courteous in return.
I suspect that you are confusing the Stars & Bars and the Battle Flag.
I don't want to get in too deep on this debate again and get yelled at by the powers that be, BUT....the people who fired the first shot in the civil war wanted to destroy our Union. If that is not traitorous, what is?
You need to study history, Junior; it is quite clear you have no understanding of it.
I don't want to get in too deep on this debate again and get yelled at by the powers that be, BUT....the people who fired the first shot in the civil war wanted to destroy our Union. If that is not traitorous, what is?
well i can see your no scholar ,just another damn yankee flappin his lips so's his * gets some air..let me educate you troll...the first shot of the civil war was fired at Gettysburg,at 7:30 A.M, July 1 1863 near a blacksmiths home by the name of Wisler...It was fired by Lieut.Marcellus Jones of the 8th Illinois Volunteer Cavalry to give warning to Confederate Maj. Henry Heth's column who was rapidly setting up skirmish lines and advancing on the 8th Illinois to halt..fire was returned and the Confederates wiped their *. it is alot more detailed if you would take the time to look it up in the encyclopedia or on line..so whistle dixie traitor[;)][:(!]
quote:pit_viper_53
Starting Member
31 Posts
Posted - 05/27/2009 : 3:55:33 PM
I hate that the Stars and Bars has been perverted by it use by less than enlightened organizations. I disagree that it was a traitor's flag. I think the Confederate States really believed they had a right to witdraw from the union. No doubt there have been atrocities comiited under it's flight. But the same criticism can be said of many flags. I won't fly it simply out of respect for the people it does offend. That being said, as long as they let it offend them, they will never truly be free. As long as any symbol or word can cause you pain or discomfort, you are owned by the symbol or word and the people who use them. As for the pretenders and want to be victims, the time has come for them to move on. If one of us rednecks can offend you by flying the Stars and Bars that is more a reflection on you than us. Yes I am a redneck, born and bred. I'm raising another generation of beer drinkin', hot roddin', gun totin', good ole boys too. BUT, they are taught, as I was, to courtesy others until they prove they are not worthy of courtesy. That is not to say we are willing to bow down before them, just that I feel all people deserve a certain amount of courtesy as long as they are courteous in return.
Edited by - pit_viper_53 on 05/27/2009 4:01:11 PM
Sir...HOW DARE YOU!!! How dare you SIR, bring reason and logic into GB. It has no place here!!!!! I demand satisfaction. Post the lyric to Satisfaction followed by some asinine worded rant about how the AK47 is more accurate than a SKS.
Well, WPA, I would have to disagree with your definition of traitor. If you check back to the time that the US was formed (not 1776- that was under the Articles of Confederation)- that is, the ratification of the Constitution, several states agreed to join ON THE CONDITION that they could LEAVE if they desired to do so. Virginia was one such state. In 1861, the Union Govt decided to change the rules.
The efforts of the Confederate Govt were not an attempt to destroy the Union- but to withdraw from it. An undertaking they had been assured they could do.
If I work for a company, and quit, that should not be considered an effort to destroy that company. It IS an effort to leave.
BTW, the South DID fire the first shot of the war (if you don't count John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry) WHY did they fire on Ft. Sumter?
Ft Sumter in Charleston Harbor was attacked because at that time Charleston, South Carolina was the primary port of the country, handling agricultural imports/exports to and from Europe almost exclusively.
The government had instructed the garrison at Ft Sumter to use whatever force was necessary to implement their regulation of shipping; they wanted the South to deal with the northern textile mills only, even though the southern farmers could realize a better price for their goods from the Europeans.
The state of South Carolina objected, seceded from the Union, and opened fire on the garrison.
Originally posted by War Pig Actual
I don't want to get in too deep on this debate again and get yelled at by the powers that be, BUT....the people who fired the first shot in the civil war wanted to destroy our Union. If that is not traitorous, what is?
You need to study history, Junior; it is quite clear you have no understanding of it.
History has and always will be written by the victor. Fairy tales of Confederate reasoning to legitimize their treachery shall be spoken as lunacy. Upon the throne of victory the Union remained solvent.
I can't believe that all of you folks still fall into Scott's (WPA) crapola.
quote:quote:
Originally posted by War Pig Actual
I don't want to get in too deep on this debate again and get yelled at by the powers that be, BUT....the people who fired the first shot in the civil war wanted to destroy our Union. If that is not traitorous, what is?
You need to study history, Junior; it is quite clear you have no understanding of it.
History has and always will be written by the victor. Fairy tales of Confederate reasoning to legitimize their treachery shall be spoken as lunacy. Upon the throne of victory the Union remained solvent.
You need to study history, Junior; it is quite clear you have no understanding of it.
Advanced Member
USA
3711 Posts
Posted - 05/27/2009 : 7:33:05 PM
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Originally posted by War Pig Actual
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Originally posted by War Pig Actual
I don't want to get in too deep on this debate again and get yelled at by the powers that be, BUT....the people who fired the first shot in the civil war wanted to destroy our Union. If that is not traitorous, what is?
You need to study history, Junior; it is quite clear you have no understanding of it.
History has and always will be written by the victor. Fairy tales of Confederate reasoning to legitimize their treachery shall be spoken as lunacy. Upon the throne of victory the Union remained solvent.
You need to study history, Junior; it is quite clear you have no understanding of it.
Enlighten me with thy wisdom O Oracle of Gun Broker. For I am thy peon to with many learned subjects I lack knowledge of.
quote:wsfiredude
Advanced Member
USA
3711 Posts
Posted - 05/27/2009 : 7:33:05 PM
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Originally posted by War Pig Actual
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Originally posted by War Pig Actual
I don't want to get in too deep on this debate again and get yelled at by the powers that be, BUT....the people who fired the first shot in the civil war wanted to destroy our Union. If that is not traitorous, what is?
You need to study history, Junior; it is quite clear you have no understanding of it.
History has and always will be written by the victor. Fairy tales of Confederate reasoning to legitimize their treachery shall be spoken as lunacy. Upon the throne of victory the Union remained solvent.
You need to study history, Junior; it is quite clear you have no understanding of it.
Enlighten me with thy wisdom O Oracle of Gun Broker. For I am thy peon to with many learned subjects I lack knowledge of.
There is no enlightening you, as you are more interested in fiction than facts.
quote:wsfiredude
Advanced Member
USA
3711 Posts
Posted - 05/27/2009 : 7:33:05 PM
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Originally posted by War Pig Actual
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Originally posted by War Pig Actual
I don't want to get in too deep on this debate again and get yelled at by the powers that be, BUT....the people who fired the first shot in the civil war wanted to destroy our Union. If that is not traitorous, what is?
You need to study history, Junior; it is quite clear you have no understanding of it.
History has and always will be written by the victor. Fairy tales of Confederate reasoning to legitimize their treachery shall be spoken as lunacy. Upon the throne of victory the Union remained solvent.
You need to study history, Junior; it is quite clear you have no understanding of it.
Enlighten me with thy wisdom O Oracle of Gun Broker. For I am thy peon to with many learned subjects I lack knowledge of.
Oh, come now, Erlene...you needn't clarify your statement at all.