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Trump campaign fights the BIG STEAL

CaptainCrossmanCaptainCrossman Member Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 2016 in General Discussion


Trump is ready to fight the delegate steal scam at the Republican Convention in Cleveland

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  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,561 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good for him and the more the establishment wants him out the more I support him.
  • casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, I didn't make it very far into the 3 hour video. How was the election stolen from Trump in TEXAS?
    Ted Cruz REP 1,241,118 43.76% (104)
    Donald J. Trump REP 758,762 26.75% (48)
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by casper1947
    OK, I didn't make it very far into the 3 hour video. How was the election stolen from Trump in TEXAS?
    Ted Cruz REP 1,241,118 43.76% (104)
    Donald J. Trump REP 758,762 26.75% (48)



    Quite frankly the explanation is just to long to type in this setting. The first thing you must understand is the republican party is a private party. They are not bound by any election laws as they apply to public elections. I seen on a local, state, and national level how dishonest and backhanded the republican party elite can be during the 2012 process.

    I haven't watched the video either. But if it can all be explained in a 3 hour video it would be a short lesson considering the material.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member Posts: 59,352 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CaptainCrossman


    Trump is ready to fight the delegate steal scam at the Republican Convention in Cleveland
    If Trump (and/or you) believe there is some scam or stealing going on during the nomination process, neither of you has understood how it actually works.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • ScottymacScottymac Member Posts: 472 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cruz was interviewed by Hannity and Cruz said if the GOP establishment tries to steal the vote from the public we would see a revolt.

    Seems Cruz has no clue either LOL
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,190 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its all rigged...

    Good luck to Trump.
  • casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just HOW are they "stealing" the election.
    Is it OPEN Primaries?
    Winner take all States?
    Changing the rules AFTER the vote takes place?
    Seems to me that if the National GOP wanted to put in A fix then ALL States would have the same rules.
    Now changing the rules at the convention (floor rule changes) is another issue all together. But 1236 is NOT 1237.
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by CaptainCrossman


    Trump is ready to fight the delegate steal scam at the Republican Convention in Cleveland
    If Trump (and/or you) believe there is some scam or stealing going on during the nomination process, neither of you has understood how it actually works.




    tell me how it worked for obomo in 08
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 21,746 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Trump and his followers either do not understand the system or are simply afraid of how it may work.

    Trump will enter the convention with a certain number of delegates. If it is equal to or more than 1,237, he will be the GOP nominee on the first ballot.

    If he has less than 1,237, the convention will hold a second ballot, and many, but not all, delegates will then be unbound from their candidate and may switch from one candidate to another. If current rules (rule 40 specifically IIRC) are followed, delegates will be limited in their choice to candidates who have won the majority of delegates in a minimum of 8 states. The is the 'Ron Paul' rule that the implemented by Romney and the GOP in 2012 to ensure a GOP love fest during the voting. This would limit the choice for voting to Trump and Cruz.

    Trump will either gain or lose delegates during this second ballot. If he gains delegates, he will likely become the nominee. If he loses delegates, Cruz will likely become the nominee. There is no stealing, no underhanded manipulation, it is simply the rules established by the GOP prior to Trump entering the race. If he doesn't like it and reverts to his typical whining self, he not only shows his abject ignorance and disregard of the institution into which he inserted himself, he also confirms his total unfitness for the job for which he is applying.

    It is ridiculous for a man who has single-handedly brought down the level of discourse in the selection of our president to pout and whine of being treated unfairly.

    Time to put on your big boy pants, Donald, and accept the conditions you chose when deciding to run. The GOP is under no obligation to change because of you and the 20% of the voters in this country who are currently supporting your candidacy.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member Posts: 59,352 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by CaptainCrossman


    Trump is ready to fight the delegate steal scam at the Republican Convention in Cleveland
    If Trump (and/or you) believe there is some scam or stealing going on during the nomination process, neither of you has understood how it actually works.




    tell me how it worked for obomo in 08
    If memory serves correctly, he was not a part of the Republican nomination process.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    Trump and his followers either do not understand the system or are simply afraid of how it may work.

    Trump will enter the convention with a certain number of delegates. If it is equal to or more than 1,237, he will be the GOP nominee on the first ballot.

    If he has less than 1,237, the convention will hold a second ballot, and many, but not all, delegates will then be unbound from their candidate and may switch from one candidate to another. If current rules (rule 40 specifically IIRC) are followed, delegates will be limited in their choice to candidates who have won the majority of delegates in a minimum of 8 states. The is the 'Ron Paul' rule that the implemented by Romney and the GOP in 2012 to ensure a GOP love fest during the voting. This would limit the choice for voting to Trump and Cruz.

    Trump will either gain or lose delegates during this second ballot. If he gains delegates, he will likely become the nominee. If he loses delegates, Cruz will likely become the nominee. There is no stealing, no underhanded manipulation, it is simply the rules established by the GOP prior to Trump entering the race. If he doesn't like it and reverts to his typical whining self, he not only shows his abject ignorance and disregard of the institution into which he inserted himself, he also confirms his total unfitness for the job for which he is applying.

    It is ridiculous for a man who has single-handedly brought down the level of discourse in the selection of our president to pout and whine of being treated unfairly.

    Time to put on your big boy pants, Donald, and accept the conditions you chose when deciding to run. The GOP is under no obligation to change because of you and the 20% of the voters in this country who are currently supporting your candidacy.



    While what you say is basically true there is a lot of backhanded dealing that can go on, and does. In 2012 the GOP threw out entire state delegations and replaced them with people who would do as they are told. In my own county they tried several devious means to keep those elected as delegates from attending the state convention and replacing them with the people they wanted. The national GOP had sent down orders on what type of people were to attend the national convention and what was to be passed in the state conventions. Anyone not interested in following the program was to be replaced.

    While they may have some trouble manipulating the first vote, any thing there after can be jury rigged. All they have to do is insure they have sent the right people to the national convention. If Trump is making preparations for this type activity it doesn't mean he fails to understand it, it means he does understand it.

    Exactly why do you think Kasich is still in the race? He can't even catch Cruz yet alone Trump. He is simply there to collect delegate so the GOP can have a chance to throw Trump out.
  • popgunpopgun Member Posts: 691 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    Trump and his followers either do not understand the system or are simply afraid of how it may work.

    Trump will enter the convention with a certain number of delegates. If it is equal to or more than 1,237, he will be the GOP nominee on the first ballot.

    If he has less than 1,237, the convention will hold a second ballot, and many, but not all, delegates will then be unbound from their candidate and may switch from one candidate to another. If current rules (rule 40 specifically IIRC) are followed, delegates will be limited in their choice to candidates who have won the majority of delegates in a minimum of 8 states. The is the 'Ron Paul' rule that the implemented by Romney and the GOP in 2012 to ensure a GOP love fest during the voting. This would limit the choice for voting to Trump and Cruz.

    Trump will either gain or lose delegates during this second ballot. If he gains delegates, he will likely become the nominee. If he loses delegates, Cruz will likely become the nominee. There is no stealing, no underhanded manipulation, it is simply the rules established by the GOP prior to Trump entering the race. If he doesn't like it and reverts to his typical whining self, he not only shows his abject ignorance and disregard of the institution into which he inserted himself, he also confirms his total unfitness for the job for which he is applying.

    It is ridiculous for a man who has single-handedly brought down the level of discourse in the selection of our president to pout and whine of being treated unfairly.

    Time to put on your big boy pants, Donald, and accept the conditions you chose when deciding to run. The GOP is under no obligation to change because of you and the 20% of the voters in this country who are currently supporting your candidacy.



    +1

    A contested convention is NOT about "cheating the Donald."

    "a total of 90 nominating conventions have been held [by both parties.] Of these 90 conventions, 26 - or nearly 30% have been contested conventions.

    The Democrats have had 16 contested conventions out of 48, and the GOP has had 10 out of 42 conventions. They seem rare to us because the last two contested conventions for either party was 1952 for the Democrats, and 1948 for the Republicans...

    When a contested convention does occur, the candidate with the highest number of delegates after the first ballot has only won a minority of times. For the Democrats, the leading candidate after the first ballot secured the nomination 7 out of 16 times.

    For the Republicans, the leading candidate only secured the nomination 3 out of 10 times."

    http://leavittpartners.com/2016/03/a-history-of-contested-political-conventions/

    So I can't help but think all of this whining about "being cheated" is just a preemptive move by the Trumpettes in preparation of a third party run by Trump.

    I have thought from the day of his announcement to run that Trump might well be a Clinton plant, and is only running to deliberately split the Republican vote so Hillybeast can waltz into the WH.

    Trump's recent flip-flop on pledging not to run a third-party campaign, combined with all this talk of his being "cheated," convinces me that I'm likely correct.

    Ted Cruz and Sean Hannity (among others) have already stated that if the GOP "Establishment" makes illegal convention rules changes specifically aimed at stopping Trump, that it will destroy the GOP, and that they will not support such actions. So real "cheating" is likely not in the cards. It's perceived "cheating" in the minds of the Trumpettes that may well be the problem - and may well install Queen Hilly into the WH.

    So contested conventions are nothing new, and I believe anyone using "cheating" as an excuse for a "Trump Party" run is a traitor to America in her time of greatest need.

    We simply cannot allow Hilly to become President, or we will likely see civil war in 2017 - just as soon as her first radical-left Supreme Court pick declares the 2nd Amendment to be null and void - after 241 years.

    Unless we want to see war, none of us should even think about third party runs or sitting at home on election day FOR ANY REASON.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 38,925
    edited November -1
    ???......if both parties are so up in arms over someone upsetting their applecart , do you think they give a RATSAZZ about what any voter thinks or give any threat from voters any credence.>>>> you are watching public confirmation from both sides that they are going to keep their stolen marbles by any means....the system has been broken and will stay broken for our "elites" privilege..no matter who you "vote" for
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One issue is in some states one or both parties have primary elections on the public dime, something I think should not be happening BTW. Not honoring votes cast on the public dime is going to pizz some people off. If the GOP doesn't honor the voting IMO they can not win the general election.

    Does anyone know when we started conducting private party business (primary elections) on the public dime?
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by CaptainCrossman


    Trump is ready to fight the delegate steal scam at the Republican Convention in Cleveland
    If Trump (and/or you) believe there is some scam or stealing going on during the nomination process, neither of you has understood how it actually works.




    tell me how it worked for obomo in 08
    If memory serves correctly, he was not a part of the Republican nomination process.



    dont play coy ,of course he wasn't, but the delegates didn't exactly play by the rules during the nomination or the election
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,632 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spasmcreek
    ???......if both parties are so up in arms over someone upsetting their applecart , do you think they give a RATSAZZ about what any voter thinks or give any threat from voters any credence.>>>> you are watching public confirmation from both sides that they are going to keep their stolen marbles by any means....the system has been broken and will stay broken for our "elites" privilege..no matter who you "vote" for
    DING DING DING !!!

    Y'ALL Better be getting ready for a confrontation...

    Between THEM .... and ... the rest of US.
  • CaptainCrossmanCaptainCrossman Member Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    if they steal the nomination and election, it will make the resistance against them that much stronger- it will cause many millions more people to realize they're living in a political "matrix", and not reality. subverting the vote will do more damage to the political parties and system, than anything else could ever do- because it will expose them for what they are. when you see these ruins of ancient Egypt, Rome, Inca-Mayan-Aztec civilizations, etc.- that why those cities and civilizations turned into ruins. the people stop believing in the system and will just ignore it, and literally go elsewhere.

    remember when I'd post a video from Youtube such as Alex Jones, and the anti-gun spies and turncoats would uncloak on this message board, and call it "tin foil" ??

    who's tin foil now ? they are...they weren't even operating in reality...they were in a fantasy world. they are losing !! because they were being easily led, stupid, and naive.

    they aren't saying that any more, are they...because Trump went on those shows, and catapulted himself into a huge lead on the primary election, by scooping up the entire audience and listener base- which in many cities and areas is larger than Rush Limbaugh's audience. It's also larger than CNN, MSNBC, FOX, CNBC all put together.

    so tin foil that. hubris and arrogance lose to reality, every time.
    can't wait 'til Trump axes all their Fed jobs, and takes their pensions...after all, we have to balance that pesky budget...[:)][:D]

    like he said at end of this video, "it's payback time"


    I could care less how many pro-choice women whine about the abortion issue, Trump's voter base isn't pro-choice to begin with, it isn't going to dent him one bit. it's a non-issue. his lead in the polls is millions of votes, far more than the entire pro-choice movement can muster. it's a sad thing but in the end, they are killing off their own kids, while our kids are being born, growing into adults, and populating this country. so who's winning there ?

    again, they think they are winning, when they are wiping their own human seed off the earth. while ours will continue to grow.

    that's how misinformed and naive they are. they kill off their own family, while still in the womb, and fight for the right to do so. sad. this so-called political "enemy" are their own worst enemy, they are self-destructing before our eyes.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member Posts: 59,352 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by CaptainCrossman


    Trump is ready to fight the delegate steal scam at the Republican Convention in Cleveland
    If Trump (and/or you) believe there is some scam or stealing going on during the nomination process, neither of you has understood how it actually works.




    tell me how it worked for obomo in 08
    If memory serves correctly, he was not a part of the Republican nomination process.



    dont play coy ,of course he wasn't, but the delegates didn't exactly play by the rules during the nomination or the election


    Frankly, I didn't pay much attention to the democratic nomination during 08 and have no recollection of Chocolate Jesus cheating their system in anyway. If you have some recollection of that post it up.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,412 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The whole system is corrupt, just like our establishment politicians...nothing new here.
    What's next?
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member Posts: 59,352 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CaptainCrossman
    if they steal the nomination and election, it will make the resistance against them that much stronger- it will cause many millions more people to realize they're living in a political "matrix", and not reality. subverting the vote will do more damage to the political parties and system, than anything else could ever do- because it will expose them for what they are. when you see these ruins of ancient Egypt, Rome, Inca-Mayan-Aztec civilizations, etc.- that why those cities and civilizations turned into ruins. the people stop believing in the system and will just ignore it, and literally go elsewhere.

    remember when I'd post a video from Youtube such as Alex Jones, and the anti-gun spies and turncoats would uncloak on this message board, and call it "tin foil" ??

    who's tin foil now ? they are...they weren't even operating in reality...they were in a fantasy world. they are losing !! because they were being easily led, stupid, and naive.

    they aren't saying that any more, are they...because Trump went on those shows, and catapulted himself into a huge lead on the primary election, by scooping up the entire audience and listener base- which in many cities and areas is larger than Rush Limbaugh's audience. It's also larger than CNN, MSNBC, FOX, CNBC all put together.

    so tin foil that. hubris and arrogance lose to reality, every time.
    can't wait 'til Trump axes all their Fed jobs, and takes their pensions...after all, we have to balance that pesky budget...[:)][:D]

    like he said at end of this video, "it's payback time"


    I could care less how many pro-choice women whine about the abortion issue, Trump's voter base isn't pro-choice to begin with, it isn't going to dent him one bit. it's a non-issue. his lead in the polls is millions of votes, far more than the entire pro-choice movement can muster. it's a sad thing but in the end, they are killing off their own kids, while our kids are being born, growing into adults, and populating this country. so who's winning there ?

    again, they think they are winning, when they are wiping their own human seed off the earth. while ours will continue to grow.

    that's how misinformed and naive they are. they kill off their own family, while still in the womb, and fight for the right to do so. sad. this so-called political "enemy" are their own worst enemy, they are self-destructing before our eyes.
    It's about time you conceded defeat. Thank you.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 21,746 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SCOUT5
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    Trump and his followers either do not understand the system or are simply afraid of how it may work.

    Trump will enter the convention with a certain number of delegates. If it is equal to or more than 1,237, he will be the GOP nominee on the first ballot.

    If he has less than 1,237, the convention will hold a second ballot, and many, but not all, delegates will then be unbound from their candidate and may switch from one candidate to another. If current rules (rule 40 specifically IIRC) are followed, delegates will be limited in their choice to candidates who have won the majority of delegates in a minimum of 8 states. The is the 'Ron Paul' rule that the implemented by Romney and the GOP in 2012 to ensure a GOP love fest during the voting. This would limit the choice for voting to Trump and Cruz.

    Trump will either gain or lose delegates during this second ballot. If he gains delegates, he will likely become the nominee. If he loses delegates, Cruz will likely become the nominee. There is no stealing, no underhanded manipulation, it is simply the rules established by the GOP prior to Trump entering the race. If he doesn't like it and reverts to his typical whining self, he not only shows his abject ignorance and disregard of the institution into which he inserted himself, he also confirms his total unfitness for the job for which he is applying.

    It is ridiculous for a man who has single-handedly brought down the level of discourse in the selection of our president to pout and whine of being treated unfairly.

    Time to put on your big boy pants, Donald, and accept the conditions you chose when deciding to run. The GOP is under no obligation to change because of you and the 20% of the voters in this country who are currently supporting your candidacy.



    While what you say is basically true there is a lot of backhanded dealing that can go on, and does. In 2012 the GOP threw out entire state delegations and replaced them with people who would do as they are told. In my own county they tried several devious means to keep those elected as delegates from attending the state convention and replacing them with the people they wanted. The national GOP had sent down orders on what type of people were to attend the national convention and what was to be passed in the state conventions. Anyone not interested in following the program was to be replaced.

    While they may have some trouble manipulating the first vote, any thing there after can be jury rigged. All they have to do is insure they have sent the right people to the national convention. If Trump is making preparations for this type activity it doesn't mean he fails to understand it, it means he does understand it.

    Exactly why do you think Kasich is still in the race? He can't even catch Cruz yet alone Trump. He is simply there to collect delegate so the GOP can have a chance to throw Trump out.



    I was a delegate to our State Convention in 2008 and overnight between day 1 and day 2 the establishment concocted what they called a 'unity slate' of delegates which cut the number of Ron Paul delegates from greater than 40% to probably less than 10%. It was presented and passed with a voice vote the next day.

    In 2012 I was a delegate to our county convention and when the Romney folks forced through a voice vote to force all delegates to the state convention to support the majority nominee (Romney) I got up and left.

    There is manipulation and it is incumbent upon the candidate to marshal his forces to control the process at the State level. If one candidate can control a majority of the delegates at a state convention, that candidate will emerge with the majority of the delegates. In states with primaries, this is difficult, as the delegate count is typically cut and dry, and changing that count prior to going to Cleveland will be obvious, blatant, and will be legitimate cause for protest. In states with strong conventions that select the delegates, however, it is perfectly reasonable for the delegates going to Cleveland to be different than those that were voted for by the people weeks or even months in advance.

    If there is sufficient data to suggest that the candidate with a plurality of the delegates is a loser in November, the party would be foolish to push that candidate forward. At present, Trump appears to be such a loser, and it is the prerogative (and even the responsibility) of the party to put forward a candidate that the data suggests can defeat the Democrat candidate.

    It has been reported that Trump has dressed down his strategists because they did not properly handle the situation in Louisiana, allowing Cruz to, after the fact, gather uncommitted delegates that had Trump and his people bothered to do their homework, could have been put in his camp.

    This is not stealing. This is operating under the rules of the game in which he chose to participate.

    Trump's lack of attention to detail does not immediately suggest that anyone is stealing delegates. It only shows that he is in over his head. He constantly states that he will hire the best people to solve the manifest problems facing this county.

    His failure to hire the best people may result in him not getting the chance. And it is perfectly above board and it is how the primary process has operated for scores of years. Just as ignorance of the law is not excuse, neither is ignorance of the process.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • CaptainCrossmanCaptainCrossman Member Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1


    the Big Steal continues
    via the King Makers in the Republican party
    commanded by the foreign-owned Federal Reserve bank
    from their beach head established in 1913, in NYC

  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 21,746 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You really ought to tell us that the link is to the Alex Jones show so that we don't waste those valuable 2 seconds clicking on the link.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,807 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus


    I was a delegate to our State Convention in 2008 and overnight between day 1 and day 2 the establishment concocted what they called a 'unity slate' of delegates which cut the number of Ron Paul delegates from greater than 40% to probably less than 10%. It was presented and passed with a voice vote the next day.

    In 2012 I was a delegate to our county convention and when the Romney folks forced through a voice vote to force all delegates to the state convention to support the majority nominee (Romney) I got up and left.

    There is manipulation and it is incumbent upon the candidate to marshal his forces to control the process at the State level. If one candidate can control a majority of the delegates at a state convention, that candidate will emerge with the majority of the delegates. In states with primaries, this is difficult, as the delegate count is typically cut and dry, and changing that count prior to going to Cleveland will be obvious, blatant, and will be legitimate cause for protest. In states with strong conventions that select the delegates, however, it is perfectly reasonable for the delegates going to Cleveland to be different than those that were voted for by the people weeks or even months in advance.

    If there is sufficient data to suggest that the candidate with a plurality of the delegates is a loser in November, the party would be foolish to push that candidate forward. At present, Trump appears to be such a loser, and it is the prerogative (and even the responsibility) of the party to put forward a candidate that the data suggests can defeat the Democrat candidate.

    It has been reported that Trump has dressed down his strategists because they did not properly handle the situation in Louisiana, allowing Cruz to, after the fact, gather uncommitted delegates that had Trump and his people bothered to do their homework, could have been put in his camp.

    This is not stealing. This is operating under the rules of the game in which he chose to participate.

    Trump's lack of attention to detail does not immediately suggest that anyone is stealing delegates. It only shows that he is in over his head. He constantly states that he will hire the best people to solve the manifest problems facing this county.

    His failure to hire the best people may result in him not getting the chance. And it is perfectly above board and it is how the primary process has operated for scores of years. Just as ignorance of the law is not excuse, neither is ignorance of the process.


    I understand from various radio shows that Cruz has a significantly more complex and effective ground game in, and in fact Trump has zero ground game in place for developing and keeping delegates. One report I heard indicated that it is too late for Trump to even get that developed which gives Cruz an advantage going into the convention if Trump doesn't possess enough delegates on the first vote.
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