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What would you pay the spouses of 9-11 victims?

scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
Love him or loathe him, he nailed this one right on the head..........


By Rush Limbaugh:
I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I can't let the numbers pass by
because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of
this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're
going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of
$250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.?
If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action,
the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.



Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get
$833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a
screeching halt.



Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million upto$4.7 million are complaining
that it's not enough.?Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.?
Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers. (Actually, soldiers are put in harms way by politicians and commanding
officers..)



We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have
started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families
are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the
embassies are now asking for compensation as well.



You see where e this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to
nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing.?Make sense?



However, our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system. If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an
E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who
placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.
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I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.

Comments

  • wsfiredudewsfiredude Member Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Loathe him.

    When his time came, he must have felt it was beneath him to 'join the ranks', hence, he opted for deferments.

    BTW, scott, it's called the PSOB, or Public Safety Officer's Death Benefit. If I experience a traumatic death while on duty (wall collapses on me, burn up in a fire, etc.) or have a MI/stroke, my wife and kids receive a $250,000 (IIRC) benefit from the government.

    And, no, I do not believe it is right; that benefit is funded by taxpayer dollars.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    The Goverment of Saudia Arabia should be paying death benefits to the widows and orphans of 9-11-01...come to think of it, they should probably paying the death benefits of the US forces KIA in Iraq/Afganistan...
  • wsfiredudewsfiredude Member Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by PBJloaf
    The Goverment of Saudia Arabia should be paying death benefits to the widows and orphans of 9-11-01...come to think of it, they should probably paying the death benefits of the US forces KIA in Iraq/Afganistan...




    +1

    The man gets it.[;)]
  • RtWngExtrmstRtWngExtrmst Member Posts: 7,456
    edited November -1
    For families of 911 victims they should get whatever insurance they have. That is what insurance is for. Totally irresponsible for gov to pay victims families anything.

    For KIA, the government has responsibility to provide for their families significantly more than they do now.
  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    NOTHING! Most of vicitms had very nice insurance policies.
  • ontherocksontherocks Member Posts: 58 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The better question is why you a take one hardship and make it two? what in the hell makes you think we should pay anything? we as a people were attacked once, why should we pay again?

    damn.

    while I feel bad for the fallen, it just makes me sick the thought process of some supposed americans.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    We are all going to die someday.

    While it is unfortunate the people of the 9-11 debacle were killed, they deserve NO payment from tax dollars.
    What, did they think their families dieing was equal to hitting the lotto? How sick. [xx(]
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just one man's opinion- Those that die because they were on duty (police, fire, paramedics) should receive the death benefits that any other Public Safety employee gets in a line-of-duty death. Those benefits exist because of the high hazard nature of the job, and rightly so.

    As far as the rest of the folks- sorry, but where does it say that the government is supposed to use YOUR money and MY money for their families? Yes, I know it is done frequently- and except for folks in line-of-duty situations, I do not see this as being a duty of the government. They are busy trying to be all things to all people.
  • wsfiredudewsfiredude Member Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ontherocks
    The better question is why you a take one hardship and make it two? what in the hell makes you think we should pay anything? we as a people were attacked once, why should we pay again?

    damn.

    while I feel bad for the fallen, it just makes me sick the thought process of some supposed americans.


    rocks,

    It is called the 'entitlement mentality', and it sickens me as well.

    I have purchased insurance as a contingency should something happen to me. I pay for it.

    I neither expect nor want the taxpayers to pay a benefit to those who survive me, as it is not the taxpayers place to do so.
  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    When I was in Iraq I was covered by MY company.Uncle Sugar was NOT LIABLE
  • wsfiredudewsfiredude Member Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 11b6r
    Just one man's opinion- Those that die because they were on duty (police, fire, paramedics) should receive the death benefits that any other Public Safety employee gets in a line-of-duty death. Those benefits exist because of the high hazard nature of the job, and rightly so.



    11b6r,

    While the job is a high hazard job, I do not believe it entitles me or my family to special benefits funded by the people; that is what my insurance is for.

    I have instructed my wife that, if something should happen to me while on duty, my wishes are for her to decline the PSOB. The taxpayers are already footing the bill for my pay and the apparatus I drive. If I die, they do not owe me or mine a damn thing.
  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    I dont get it either. People die in a terrorist attack and their family thinks they should hit the lottery at taxpayer expense. And anyone that stands up against it would be tied to a stake and stoned. Hey, I wonder if I was tied to a stake and stoned if my family would be entitled to some large payout????
  • screwobamascrewobama Member Posts: 625
    edited November -1
    The families are NOT entitled to any compensation for the attacks! I know it's easy for us to sit here and say that being that we didn't loose a family member but what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong!
    It was only out of dumb luck that I was not on that plane on Tuesday 9-11-01. I had to be in CA. Superior court on the 11th to answer a speeding ticket. I flew out of Logan airport on 9-10-01 on American flight 93 in order to get home for my court date. When I woke up on Tuesday I couldn't belive what had happened!
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Nothing...our own soldier's families do not get JACK...over burial expenses, unless they pay for the life insurance. Why in the world are tax payers dollars going to these folks...who did nothing to contribute to this nation's security.
  • tneff1969tneff1969 Member Posts: 6,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pay them for what ?? Not trying to be heartless, but if I got killed in a car accident is the government gonna pony up some cash ??? Hell no, and they shouldn't be expected to in either case.
  • lindalecowboylindalecowboy Member Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wsfiredude
    quote:Originally posted by PBJloaf
    The Goverment of Saudia Arabia should be paying death benefits to the widows and orphans of 9-11-01...come to think of it, they should probably paying the death benefits of the US forces KIA in Iraq/Afganistan...




    +1

    The man gets it.[;)]




    Yes he does and that's the best plan I've seen since 9-11. I don't have a problem with those folks being compensated but there should never be a day when a benefit paid from 9-11 is greater than those paid our men and women who die on the battle field. Someone has already said, the 9-11 folks, tragic as it is, were just unlucky. The soldiers have stepped forward and said, "I'll go, send me". They volunteered, at a time of war, to go in our place and defend freedom around the world. Their immediately family should be given a well planned out payment of a significant sum, (no I don't know what that is but should easily be greater than any other death benefit paid).
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