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Can you shoot a 5.56 in a AK-47?

wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
edited April 2017 in General Discussion
I know that the 7.62x39 won't work in the AR.

I've checked the net and found story's where the North Vietnamese would use the 5.56 if they ran out of ammo.

What do you think?
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    shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can you clarify? AR-15s come chambered in 7.62 X 39 and AK pattern rifles come chambered in 5.56.
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    Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,368 ******
    edited November -1
    You mean like in some survival type scenario?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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    wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can shoot 12 ga ammo in a 10 ga shotgun as well. However its not recommended.
    "What is truth?'
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    shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
    You can shoot 12 ga ammo in a 10 ga shotgun as well. However its not recommended.


    For that matter a 9mm can shoot in a .40 and a.40 in a .45....not recommended and not accurate, but SHTF and up close accuracy won't matter.
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,855 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know what do you think?

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    A little over 2mm (0.08 in) difference in case diameter and 6mm in length.
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    wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    You mean like in some survival type scenario?


    At all. Will it work?
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    wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
    I don't know what do you think?

    NewCartridgessmall.jpg


    A little over 2mm (0.08 in) difference in case diameter and 6mm in length.


    Would your vote be a no then?
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,855 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    You mean like in some survival type scenario?


    At all. Will it work?

    It's too long and wouldn't chamber. If you did get it to ignite you'd have a mostly unsupported case going off inside the receiver. I think it would be spectacular to watch, so long as you weren't too far from an emergency room.
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    Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    You mean like in some survival type scenario?


    At all. Will it work?

    It's too long and wouldn't chamber. If you did get it to ignite you'd have a mostly unsupported case going off inside the receiver. I think it would be spectacular to watch, so long as you weren't too far from an emergency room.

    I would add that if anyone cares to try it, please videotape the action so the rest of us can enjoy the spectacle. [:0]
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    wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe working for one shot.
    "What is truth?'
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    gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    Just dropped a 5.56NATO round into my Yugo AK; stopped about a half inch before the case head was flush with the mouth of the chamber.
    IF I were to release the bolt, it would most likely just crush it into the chamber, and create a non-functioning gun. Somebody's been feeding you feces.
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    remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,245 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    An old wife's tell
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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
    An old wife's tell


    Wives tale passed on by some want-a-be "Special Forces secret agent X9" who was probably a spoon on a Aircraft Carrier.[;)]
    RLTW

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    Sig220_Ruger77Sig220_Ruger77 Member Posts: 12,748 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have fired .380 in a 9mm. The action won't cycle though.

    Jon
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    wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Before I make to many enemy's here, among all of the shot up Modelo Beer bottles, baby diapers and trash they left behind, not to mention that they were shooting in an absolute no shooting area,(Nellis sand dunes), they were also cramming 9mms into 40 cals.!!!

    IMG_0161_zpsozyzyogj.jpg

    Photobucket wouldn't let me copy the link for some reason.
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    bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sig220_Ruger77
    I have fired .380 in a 9mm. The action won't cycle though.

    Jon


    You and I are idiots. [;)]

    How many did you try?
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    wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    Before I make to many enemy's here, among all of the shot up Modelo Beer bottles, baby diapers and trash they left behind, not to mention that they were shooting in an absolute no shooting area,(Nellis sand dunes), they were also cramming 9mms into 40 cals.!!!

    http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm145/gunsmoke1702/IMG_0161_zpsozyzyogj.jpg

    Photobucket wouldn't let me copy the link for some reason.


    This ????? ,,,,,,,,

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    Howd ju do dat!
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    gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    Just in case, you "could" shoot 38Super in a 357mag revolver.
    Fairly accurate, but it sounds weird.
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    Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    However, used as a single shot weapon, you can use a jute wrap around a 7.62 NATO round (acts as both a chamber filler and a pull to extract device) in a 7.62x54R weapon.
    My guess is that this is where the silly story got started about using US ammo in Com-Block weapons came from.
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    Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    However, used as a single shot weapon, you can use a jute wrap around a 7.62 NATO round (acts as both a chamber filler and a pull to extract device) in a 7.62x54R weapon.
    My guess is that this is where the silly story got started about using US ammo in Com-Block weapons came from.
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    mrmike08075mrmike08075 Member Posts: 10,861 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My understanding is that north Korea has been manufacturing a simple bullpup automatic battle rifle that is chambered in Nato 5.56 and will accept Nato ar-spec mags...

    There is a companion variant that chambers the Russian - Chinese ak-74 modern round and accepts it's mags...

    Both based on Chinese designs.

    Supposed to be simple - rugged - cheap - stamped / pressed designs

    How many have been made I don't know - how many have been issued in don't know...

    And Internet or alt forum search should produce some details.

    Hence the north Korean forces so equipped could utilize captured ammo and mags and other TOE resources.

    Not a new concept.

    Mike
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    LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Tailgunner1954
    My guess is that this is where the silly story got started about using US ammo in Com-Block weapons came from.


    The Russian T62 could shoot our 105 mm main gun rounds through their 110mm smooth bore main guns. But we could not use theirs due to size and use having rifled gun tubes.

    M1 same thing. We have a 120mm smooth bore cannon while the Russians put a 125 mm on the T72.
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    Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 24,813 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    when I was younger ( early 20's ) my now departed BIL ( RIP Bubby ) was in Vietnam as a army ranger . he told me once in one of talks ( he said very little about it I did not he was a ranger until he passed ) the north &^%%&* cant print his words [:D] could fire the American ammo in there rifles but we could not return the favor .
    I had my doubts but I did not argue the point heck he was there I was just a kid who liked guns .. this post dusted off the memory , and I never really ask anyone else , I knew I would not be trying it and not facing the Vietcong
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    wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is no such thing as Liberal Men, only Liberal Women with Penises.'
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    Sig220_Ruger77Sig220_Ruger77 Member Posts: 12,748 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    quote:Originally posted by Sig220_Ruger77
    I have fired .380 in a 9mm. The action won't cycle though.

    Jon


    You and I are idiots. [;)]

    How many did you try?




    3 I think...?

    It was in a Ruger P85, so I had a little extra comfort in knowing I had a "tank" in my hand. [:D]

    It's probably not the smartest thing to do, but at the same time, I guess I know if push-comes-to-shove, I can do it.

    Jon
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    Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have an AK chambered in 5.56, so yes I can. But it wont work in one chambered in 7.62X39.

    When I arrived in Vietnam, sept 1968, I heard those stories and they were not true.
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    drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    Ok guy's, It can be done.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79EKAocruRE


    I once helped a kid at a range clear broken 5.56 shell casing from the chamber of 7.62x39 Wasr10.

    You can shoot it once but better be ready to grab another gun.

    quote:Originally posted by Tailgunner1954
    However, used as a single shot weapon, you can use a jute wrap around a 7.62 NATO round (acts as both a chamber filler and a pull to extract device) in a 7.62x54R weapon.
    My guess is that this is where the silly story got started about using US ammo in Com-Block weapons came from.


    Fella on another board I hang out at wraps the case head of 45 acp with thread and fires it out of his 45 Colt Vaquero. Kind of a neat trick.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoVKK02Zrs4
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    bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sig220_Ruger77
    quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    quote:Originally posted by Sig220_Ruger77
    I have fired .380 in a 9mm. The action won't cycle though.

    Jon


    You and I are idiots. [;)]

    How many did you try?




    3 in a SIG 226 for me. [B)]

    3 I think...?

    It was in a Ruger P85, so I had a little extra comfort in knowing I had a "tank" in my hand. [:D]

    It's probably not the smartest thing to do, but at the same time, I guess I know if push-comes-to-shove, I can do it.

    Jon
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