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police to ?reward aggression?

moonshinemoonshine Member Posts: 8,471
edited December 2010 in General Discussion
http://www.katu.com/news/local/112367714.html

PORTLAND, Ore. - An article published in the Portland Police Union's newsletter, The Rap Sheet, urges police agencies to "reward aggression," and it's raising a few eyebrows and concerns in light of this year's four deadly officer-involved shootings.

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    AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The history of what happens after a couple of shootings, and the massive publicity that follows, probably wouldn't interest you.

    I have personally seen it, and the aftermath.

    Portland is more Liberal than Kalif ever thought it could be.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    'Aggressive' enforcement of law, e.g. an 'aggressive LEO' is generally looked upon with favor in the business, rather than 'keeping the peace', which is viewed with disdain, by many in the business.

    This is where and why I part ways with such conventional wisdom.

    Peace Officer vs Law Enforcement Officer, two mindsets and ethics which exist and which are diametrically opposite to one another, despite the continual protestations I see here on GB.
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    txlawdogtxlawdog Member Posts: 10,039 ✭✭
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    I think that is a pretty foolish article. It further pushes that its us against them. I feel that is the wrong image to portray.

    Officers these days are quick to use force instead of communicating with people. Probably the best training I had was being a small town police officer where the backup was 20 minutes away. I learned to talk my way out of getting my rear whipped!

    It also amazes me how people and officers don't know the authority under which they operate. "Just because Im the police," does not cut it in my opinion.
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    mauser54mauser54 Member Posts: 3,733
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by txlawdog
    I think that is a pretty foolish article. It further pushes that its us against them. I feel that is the wrong image to portray.

    Officers these days are quick to use force instead of communicating with people. Probably the best training I had was being a small town police officer where the backup was 20 minutes away. I learned to talk my way out of getting my rear whipped!

    It also amazes me how people and officers don't know the authority under which they operate. "Just because Im the police," does not cut it in my opinion.


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    AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by txlawdog
    I think that is a pretty foolish article. It further pushes that its us against them. I feel that is the wrong image to portray.

    Officers these days are quick to use force instead of communicating with people. Probably the best training I had was being a small town police officer where the backup was 20 minutes away. I learned to talk my way out of getting my rear whipped!

    It also amazes me how people and officers don't know the authority under which they operate. "Just because Im the police," does not cut it in my opinion.


    Very true. My first FTO told me that "Nobody is ever going to jump out of that radio box and help you. So you better have a plan to get yourself out of any mess you get yourself into."

    What I have seen in the past, is that after a couple of shootings, where there in massive media attention, police are hesitant to shoot and are killed. It happens.

    Every shooting has to be taken on it's own merits, but if police are hesitant to shoot because of bad publicity on a prior shooting, there is going to be several police funerals.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
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    bigboy12bigboy12 Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Growing up here in West TN, we had some "Old School" LEO's who used common sense in all situations they were involved in. There were some shootings, but the officers were respected by the community because they saw their jobs as SERVING the public, not making war on the public. Those men are gone now. We still have some good officers who learned from the "Old School" LEOs, but now we are getting some who have emmigrated here from the big cities and they think the sun rises and sets on the command.
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