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Starbucks blocking porn on wifi: Good Idea or Bad?

droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,367 ✭✭
edited December 2018 in General Discussion
Starbucks is set to block customers from being able to watch pornography on the WiFi provided in its coffee stores next year, following a campaign from anti-Internet porn organization Enough is Enough.

Good or Bad Idea:

YES w/o a doubt the idea to "ban" something from their "free" wifi is a winner and libtards everywhere will rally around. Coffee sales will go up

NO Who cares what someone watches while sipping expensive coffee with their little finger sticking out. If anything sales will go down.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/11/29/starbucks-will-block-porn-websites-on-store-wifi/
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    WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,839 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its their wifi.

    Dont like it, dont drink their overpriced coffee.

    Thats how capitalism works.

    I doubt many here are big fans of Starbucks.
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    He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 50,955 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like Starbucks, have zero interest in porn. I'm in.
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    shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,241 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As I business I believe they should have the right to restrict internet usage any way they want.

    I don't care for Starbucks but their business is their business.
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is an idea.

    Why to we have to judge it?

    Don
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,198 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is indeed their wifi and their stores.

    It is also my money and my taste buds, so you won't see me in any Starbucks anyway.

    Who the hell would watch porn in public?
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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    droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,367 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    It is indeed their wifi and their stores.

    It is also my money and my taste buds, so you won't see me in any Starbucks anyway.

    Who the hell would watch porn in public?Obviously more people than anyone would would think. If only a few it wouldn't be an issue. Maybe a sign saying "TURN YOUR VOLUME DOWN and USE EARPHONES WHEN WATCHING PORN" would have done the trick.[:p]
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    GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 16,749 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Having worked in a place where there was FREE WIFI , it brought in many seedy characters, I made a suggestion, block porn. They did and the useless clowns who never bought anything quit coming in,
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    He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 50,955 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I could see several screens of porn visible around your business might limit the customer base.
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    11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,588 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Agree with Warbirds. Their business, their WiFi, their choice.
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    mrmike08075mrmike08075 Member Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is their legal team doing a preemptive strike against bad press or legal liability...

    It's a financial decision and has no moral components.

    Mike
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Computer experts will tell you to avoid using the wifi at Starbucks for anything; they have the weakest security in the business. The same for their website.

    Neal
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    guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Warbirds
    Its their wifi.

    Dont like it, dont drink their overpriced coffee.

    Thats how capitalism works.

    I doubt many here are big fans of Starbucks.


    ^^^^^^What he said.^^^^^^
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    spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    some idiot judge will force them to show porn....or bake a cake ?????
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    BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,375 ******
    edited November -1
    Next, they will block all the gun websites! Not a porn advocate one bit but our freedoms are being cut off inch by inch and there is a pun in there somewhere.
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    varianvarian Member Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    are they able to define porn or only know it when they see it.
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    discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,418 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    some jackleg will push it to that level, and force starbucks to do the ultimate internet filtering by removering internet access altogether..
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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    by the tone i see here i guess its ok to block GunBroker, and other gun sites in other businesses


    be careful what you wish for
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    by the tone i see here i guess its ok to block GunBroker, and other gun sites in other businesses


    be careful what you wish for


    I believe I was at a place once where GunBroker was banned. I rarely use public wifi, and may have been overseas at the time, but was presented with a message that stated gun related websites were not permitted.

    You do not have to wish for something or even like when recognizing and respecting an organization's choices.

    GB forums bans a lot of things. Some I agree with and some I do not, but I understand that while I have the choice to participate, I do not have the power to dictate what I can do in the house of another.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,309 ******
    edited November -1
    No matter how you feel about it, it's going to stop exactly 0 people who want to view porn while at Starbucks from viewing porn at Starbucks.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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    NavybatNavybat Member Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think it's clearly a good idea. I take my kids there sometimes and I don't want some creepy pervert surfing porn while I'm having some iced drinks with my kids.

    Porn, like sex acts, should be kept private.
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Warbirds
    Its their wifi.

    Dont like it, dont drink their overpriced coffee.

    Thats how capitalism works.

    I doubt many here are big fans of Starbucks.


    Ditto.
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    Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,198 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    To the thread title, I'd have to ask a return question: Good idea or bad for whom?

    For Starbucks? For customers? For stockholders? For porn makers? For even that part of the public who don't go to Starbucks or watch porn? Or for those who'd like to find a place to watch porn for free?
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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    guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    by the tone i see here i guess its ok to block GunBroker, and other gun sites in other businesses


    be careful what you wish for


    Is it not within their rights if they are providing the wifi?
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    llamallama Member Posts: 2,637 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've spent about 10 minutes in Law School - and that was looking for a bathroom and a vending machine.

    That said, I am a (hard core) geek... and I say don't block anything.

    First, it is impossible to Block It All and still allow any kind of outside access. Second it is trivial to get around, via VPN or similar - depends on how the block is being implemented.

    The biggest reason... (and what should be run past someone who really is a lawyer) is liability.

    If you fully admit that you do not block anything, you aren't responsible for what is viewed. You still have to eject folks behaving badly, etc. but as for actual content accessed you'll have no liability.

    Once you start blocking something, all someone has to do is get offended at *something* (RemoteGirl anyone?) and now you are liable because you did not block it while you are blocking "everything else".

    "I came to *$ because they keep the internet clean for little Tommy on his iPad while I drink my latte. He saw a picture of a girl in a thong with her legs spread... and now I'm traumatized!" Calls the media, raises heck, gets an ambulance chaser on a percentage of collected and files a lawsuit.

    Sure, it probably won't go far in a lawsuit, etc. but "trial by media" plus the legal fees to have it taken care of as far as it does go through the legal system will cost.
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    redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,686 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm more concerned that there is enough folks watching porn at Starbucks to make such an issue.
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    grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 53,466
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Brookwood
    Next, they will block all the gun websites! Not a porn advocate one bit but our freedoms are being cut off inch by inch and there is a pun in there somewhere.


    Yep I cannot check GunBroker at work have to use my phone to do it. There is a No Weapons Policy. Just recently they banned fixed blade Knives. Problem is my folding pocket knife is larger than the Knife that brought this on. And mine is an automatic knife hit the button and its open.
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    savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,455 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    by the tone i see here i guess its ok to block GunBroker, and other gun sites in other businesses


    be careful what you wish for




    Already happening at Disney
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    chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,786 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    It is indeed their wifi and their stores.

    It is also my money and my taste buds, so you won't see me in any Starbucks anyway.

    Who the hell would watch porn in public?


    The same type of people who habit Starbucks, I understand Starbucks is one of those places that allow people with gender identity issues to use whatever restroom they want.
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    Winston BodeWinston Bode Member Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah but most of the time the perv is sitting in the parking lot not inside the store
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    nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,008 ******
    edited November -1
    It matters not to me.

    I don't patronize Starbucks, and I don't look at porn.
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    remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I understand their policy, when you share internet signals, you can get viruses that the other people are bringing from the sites they go to.
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    WearyTravelerWearyTraveler Member Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This post gives new meaning to the question: "cream in your coffee, sir?"
    ”People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
    - GEORGE ORWELL -
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    oldWinchesterfanoldWinchesterfan Member Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anyone ever notice gun sites are blocked on some public wifi? Their wifi, their choice. It's a free country.

    They're just announcing it for publicity, trying to stay in the news. Old saying ... any publicity is good publicity.
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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    It matters not to me.

    I don't patronize Starbucks, and I don't look at porn.


    +1
    RLTW

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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Their house, their rules. No different than here.
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    Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,380 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Brookwood
    Next, they will block all the gun websites! Not a porn advocate one bit but our freedoms are being cut off inch by inch and there is a pun in there somewhere.


    quote:1911a1-fan Posted
    by the tone i see here i guess its ok to block GunBroker, and other gun sites in other businesses


    be careful what you wish for


    What many people seem to miss is the private property issue. "Freedom" and "Rights" only exist in public places. When you are on my private property, you do, or don't do, and act as I say. Simple really.
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    chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,786 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
    quote:Originally posted by Brookwood
    Next, they will block all the gun websites! Not a porn advocate one bit but our freedoms are being cut off inch by inch and there is a pun in there somewhere.


    quote:1911a1-fan Posted
    by the tone i see here i guess its ok to block GunBroker, and other gun sites in other businesses


    be careful what you wish for


    What many people seem to miss is the private property issue. "Freedom" and "Rights" only exist in public places. When you are on my private property, you do, or don't do, and act as I say. Simple really.




    I can remember when it used to be that way, but activists courts have made decision counter to that precept.

    Take for instance accommodating samesexuals
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    Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't go to Starbucks, and I don't look at porn. I also understand a business not wanting to have porn visible to customers and children that do not wish to, or shouldn't see such things.

    What I don't understand is how is blocking it on their in house wi-fi connection going to stop a freak from watching it over their data connection?

    Answer,.....it isn't.

    The truly sad part is that there are pervs/freaks that would even do such things in the first place, i.e. watch porn in public where others can see it.

    Kinda reminds me of the classless people that speak/shout with utter vulgarity out in public. Some folks just need to have their * kicked, and taught a lesson.[xx(]
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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    remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    I don't go to Starbucks, and I don't look at porn. I also understand a business not wanting to have porn visible to customers and children that do not wish to, or shouldn't see such things.

    What I don't understand is how is blocking it on their in house wi-fi connection going to stop a freak from watching it over their data connection?

    Answer,.....it isn't.

    The truly sad part is that there are pervs/freaks that would even do such things in the first place, i.e. watch porn in public where others can see it.

    Kinda reminds me of the classless people that speak/shout with utter vulgarity out in public. Some folks just need to have their * kicked, and taught a lesson.[xx(]


    I agree with you, I hate when people swear in public. It actually makes my skin crawl, not say this I'm not above saying a bad word or two. But I also know my audience and adjust the way I talk took it the audience.

    But like I said it makes my skin crawl when people swear in public. But I just grit my teeth bare it, because I will not take away a person's constitutional right of freedom of speech... That's not to say that I won't remind them that there are others present that may not like their way of expressing themselves. But that's as far as I would take it
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    ArbyArby Member Posts: 668
    edited November -1
    Only a Hot Czech, in a two bit Cathouse with a sack full of quarters digs porn[:D]
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