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reloader44mag
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How often do you travel by commercial aircraft?....I travel by air about 20 round trips a year?....just wondering....and when you do fly do you feel the security measures in place are overkill?...Hell I even had a metal knife with my meal in First Class to Salt Lake City yesterday[:)]
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I hate flying. Not because of any fear, just the incredible hassle and waste of time getting to and from the flight.
[xx(]
I flew 30,000 miles in one calender year for work. It was like putting your life on hold for a year. Now I only fly about once a year.
I hate flying. Not because of any fear, just the incredible hassle and waste of time getting to and from the flight.
[xx(]
What is the waste of time...I assume it is security(TSA) related?
Jon
If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!
The security at that time in 02 was ridiculous. Haven't flown since, and much prefer a good road trip any day.
Took a ferry boat over to Liberty island in 03, and it was just as bad. They took my pocket knife, and said it was illegal there. BS.
Only fly when absolutely necessary(like when my dad had a stroke and I had to get down to CA ASAP) other than that I'll drive or go on the train. I hate flying(admittedly from fear more than anything else-yes I know it's the safest form of transportation and you can tell me that all day long and I still won't care lol). Yep the security measures are ridiculous and if you think the Thousands Standing Around group is gonna catch Al Qaeda in the act I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya[;)]
ruger41...I am not trying to be an * here but why do you think the security measures at our airports are ridiculous...serious question....by the way I dont work for the TSA I work for an airline
And with the new body scanners being installed at most airports, I would refuse to have my body scanned and others to be able to view every aspect of my body. To me that is plain outright invasion of my privacy and my body.
I have also been hearing that the technology for the body scanners over time can also damage the reproductive systems of men by lowering there level of tetosterone/sperm level. I am to old to be worried about that, but what if this is true? What about our children and grandchildren having families? Would this have an impact on there ability to have children? Just some things a person would want to think about. I have no proof of this, but what if it was true.
But just the idea of the invasion of my body and privacy is enough for me to never want to travel by air. I want nothing to do with flying on those grounds. No Thanks! I will stick to traveling by car. Alot more fun anyway!
Only flown once in my life and that was in 1977. I admit I enjoyed it very much. But I prefer taking trips by vehicle. Maybe slower, but I enjoy the road and the sights you can take in while traveling.
And with the new body scanners being installed at most airports, I would refuse to have my body scanned and others to be able to view every aspect of my body. To me that is plain outright invasion of my privacy and my body.
I have also been hearing that the technology for the body scanners over time can also damage the reproductive systems of men by lowering there level of tetosterone/sperm level. I am to old to be worried about that, but what if this is true? What about our children and grandchildren having families? Would this have an impact on there ability to have children? Just some things a person would want to think about. I have no proof of this, but what if it was true.
But just the idea of the invasion of my body and privacy is enough for me to never want to travel by air. I want nothing to do with flying on those grounds. No Thanks! I will stick to traveling by car. Alot more fun anyway!
I enjoy car travel also ...but sometimes with work ya gotta be there yesterday[:)]....me personaly I know what to expect when I get in the security line...shoes off, fluids in zip lock bag out, laptop out, and in trays ...after that good to go...no big deal...my 2 cents...but I know the rules some dont and thats what makes security suck at airports
I have also been hearing that the technology for the body scanners over time can also damage the reproductive systems of men by lowering there level of tetosterone/sperm level. I am to old to be worried about that, but what if this is true? What about our children and grandchildren having families? Would this have an impact on there ability to have children? Just some things a person would want to think about. I have no proof of this, but what if it was true.
the simple fact that a person is flying is dagerous when you think about the medical aspects of it. a coast-to-coast flight subjects you to the same amount of radiation as a chest x-ray. granted, the levels of radiation aren't enough to cause an immediate health concern, but over time, it does add up. honestly, i'm more concerned about whatever airborne diseases the other passengers are coughing into the (almost) closed-loop air circulatin system than anything else.
Dubai to Atlanta is about a 15 hr trip. Find I will cram my 6'4" frame into a window seat and stay seated the whole trip.
Sleep on and off through most of it and watch movies the rest of it. Hard to read without annoying everyone around you.
Security seems the same to me. Have yet to see a full body scanner.
I will say I'm sick of the Atlanta Customs and Border Patrol office. Everytime I go through there I always get extra attention.
As far as I'm concerned the terriost have done won. We use to have a maintance contract At OIA 90 % are like trained sheep going thru and heaven forbid if one of the sheep complains. Flew one time since 911 never again
I was working as a mechanic for a privateer motorcycle racer. We all flew out to Washougal, Wa. I got in on Friday late and left on Sunday late. I had a regular job too. Everyone else spent more time.
Bike was transported earlier.
I needed some tools with me, so I packed my necessities in a gear bag along with a uniform & not much else.
Took that as my carry on. Wrenches, a hammer, the usuall stuff.
In Detroit, almost home, they unpacked some of it & dug around it in a bit. But nobody said a word.
Can you imagine that now?!?!?
I do fondly remember the time when airline passengers were made to feel 'special' though, rather than as if someone is doing them a favor.
Traveling overseas, especially in Asia, is a pleasure. Traveling in the US makes me think of a third world country with a paranoid dictator. Where TSA people regularly steal your stuff. To be avoided as much as possible.
I wear slip-on shoes and only carry on my laptop case, which is TSA approved so I only have to unzip it and open it up, no need to remove laptop. Any metal items, cell phone, etc, go into the back pouch of laptop case.
I for one, am in favor of airlines charging for carry-on baggage. Having to pay for carry-on bags would keep these families of 6 from bringing two bags each that are pushing the 22" x 14" x 9" limits that most airlines impose, and would making getting on and off the plane a much faster process.
Those who * about the aggravation of waiting through screening lines in the US, should really try travelling through European airports. [xx(] While I agree that it can be a pain in the US, I find that it is mostly because people don't want to pay checked baggage fees and they don't read the dozens of signs leading up to the screening point that explain how to proceed with your carry-on items.
I wear slip-on shoes and only carry on my laptop case, which is TSA approved so I only have to unzip it and open it up, no need to remove laptop. Any metal items, cell phone, etc, go into the back pouch of laptop case.
I for one, am in favor of airlines charging for carry-on baggage. Having to pay for carry-on bags would keep these families of 6 from bringing two bags each that are pushing the 22" x 14" x 9" limits that most airlines impose, and would making getting on and off the plane a much faster process.
I carry a bottle of RX mouthwash in my carry on. It costs about $3/bottle & lets you use the line for RX medicine which is usually shorter than the regular line.
I took my 85 yo mother to the airport a couple of years ago to fly to Florida. The TSA goons had her crying within about 3 minutes, I was fit to be tied. They had airport security escort me out of the building.[:(!]
But I generally never have anyproblems when I travel. I know the rules of what not to bring, I pack light and don't fill my pockets with a bunch of crap. I usually wear boot that slip off and back on. When I get up to the front of the line I usually just walk right through. And I'm sure the TSA appreciates that too. You have to keep in mind that they're people just like us doing a job to provide for their families. We make their day go smoother, they can make our day go smoother. And I'm sure just like me, they have a boss breathing down their necks pushing them to do things that they might not really want to do. Don't get me wrong though, I'm sure there are some out there on a power trip that ruin the rep for everybody else.
I have not traveled by air in the past fourteen years, and I will do everything possible to avoid flying again...due to the security measures...primarily.
So whats the problem with the security measures kimi?
quote:Originally posted by kimi
I have not traveled by air in the past fourteen years, and I will do everything possible to avoid flying again...due to the security measures...primarily.
So whats the problem with the security measures kimi?
It use to be fun, but those days are long gone. I liked it when there were no security checkpoints for domestic flights, and when you could see your party off or meet them as they arrived, but it is what it is...so I steer clear of flying, and hope to never do it again.
Come on 44mag don't scare off the rookys. I also work for the airlines. Security is a pain and to a certain extent over kill. (they just installed the full body scaners last week).I fly about 6 times a year and drive any time I can get to the destination in 5hrs or less by car because it will take me the same amount of time to fly.
Most of the "trips" I take are longer than 5 hrs to complete by car.....my worst experience as of late was a 45 minute wait in line at the Seattle airport to get thru security....most of the time depending on the airport is 10 minutes or less to get thru security...by the way what Airline do you work for...myself I work for Delta in MSP ...but a pre-merger Northwest Airlines employee
kimi you have just aged yourself[:D]....I fly often...if ya know the rules at aint that bad...see my OP.....just sayin
I pretty much know the rules, reloader, but that's not going to bring back free reign that passengers and their guests once had at airports. I guess if I was young and needed to fly every now and then, like my son does, I'd do it and make the best of it, but basically I don't need the airlines anymore as I see it. Should I "need" to fly due to a death in the family, I'd simply request that the funeral be postponed until I could make the drive back to Texas. [:)]
A few times to Europe as well, but that was before the DHS, and the TSA.
After what those goons put my wheel-chair bound step-father through as he was in the process of dying, I would not live through an encounter with them.[}:)]
Add in the ability for airlines to keep you confined for hours with no food, water, or AC as a prisoner basically,......they kissed my butt goodbye forever.
As before,.....I would only fly if it was a matter of life or death.
BTW, I have no 'fear' of flying like some do.
quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
kimi you have just aged yourself[:D]....I fly often...if ya know the rules at aint that bad...see my OP.....just sayin
I pretty much know the rules, reloader, but that's not going to bring back free reign that passengers and their guests once had at airports. I guess if I was young and needed to fly every now and then, like my son does, I'd do it and make the best of it, but basically I don't need the airlines anymore as I see it. Should I "need" to fly due to a death in the family, I'd simply request that the funeral be postponed until I could make the drive back to Texas. [:)]
The posters here are making the security thing way worse than it is....my 2 cents
quote:Originally posted by kimi
quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
kimi you have just aged yourself[:D]....I fly often...if ya know the rules at aint that bad...see my OP.....just sayin
I pretty much know the rules, reloader, but that's not going to bring back free reign that passengers and their guests once had at airports. I guess if I was young and needed to fly every now and then, like my son does, I'd do it and make the best of it, but basically I don't need the airlines anymore as I see it. Should I "need" to fly due to a death in the family, I'd simply request that the funeral be postponed until I could make the drive back to Texas. [:)]
The posters here are making the security thing way worse than it is....my 2 cents
Could be, but most people resist change, and generally for good reasons.
quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
quote:Originally posted by kimi
quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
kimi you have just aged yourself[:D]....I fly often...if ya know the rules at aint that bad...see my OP.....just sayin
I pretty much know the rules, reloader, but that's not going to bring back free reign that passengers and their guests once had at airports. I guess if I was young and needed to fly every now and then, like my son does, I'd do it and make the best of it, but basically I don't need the airlines anymore as I see it. Should I "need" to fly due to a death in the family, I'd simply request that the funeral be postponed until I could make the drive back to Texas. [:)]
The posters here are making the security thing way worse than it is....my 2 cents
Could be, but most people resist change, and generally for good reasons.
gotcha....but security isnt that different besides what a passenger has to do...and its not a hasssle if you know what to expect
quote:Originally posted by kimi
quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
quote:Originally posted by kimi
quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
kimi you have just aged yourself[:D]....I fly often...if ya know the rules at aint that bad...see my OP.....just sayin
I pretty much know the rules, reloader, but that's not going to bring back free reign that passengers and their guests once had at airports. I guess if I was young and needed to fly every now and then, like my son does, I'd do it and make the best of it, but basically I don't need the airlines anymore as I see it. Should I "need" to fly due to a death in the family, I'd simply request that the funeral be postponed until I could make the drive back to Texas. [:)]
The posters here are making the security thing way worse than it is....my 2 cents
Could be, but most people resist change, and generally for good reasons.
gotcha....but security isnt that different besides what a passenger has to do...and its not a hasssle if you know what to expect
Okay, whatever you say, reloader. [:D][:D][:D]
Warning bells should go off whenever they inform you you are in an area where the constitution is ignored.