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No Law Against Throwing poop onto other peoples
Ray B
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Property.
Yesterday while I was stooped over checking the moisture content of a raised garden out of the corner of my eye I see something coming over the fence (a 6' solid wood fence) and it hits me in the leg. I look down and it is dog feces. I step up on the lower horizontal runner and look over to see my neighbor walking away. Just as I called to her, her dogs started barking as someone pulled into her front yard, so she didn't give any indication that she heard me and went to the front of the house. I called the sheriff to report the incident. He came out, took my statement, photographed the stain on my pants, the dog feces and area involved.
but as it turns out, there is no law against what she did. It didn't appear that she knew that I was there so she wasn't intentionally throwing it at me, so no assault; it wasn't into a public area or waterway, so no pollution charge; so the best the sheriff could come up with was littering. So he gave her a warning for littering and said my best approach, since I have trouble with this neighbor previously, was to contact the court and get an anti-harassment order entered. then if she persisted they could charge her with violating the court order.
So Monday I get to go to court and file paperwork to keep the thing and her stuff on her own property.
I think I'll also contact my state legislator and point out that there is no state law regarding this activity. I'm just glad she's not more of a minority than being a woman.
Yesterday while I was stooped over checking the moisture content of a raised garden out of the corner of my eye I see something coming over the fence (a 6' solid wood fence) and it hits me in the leg. I look down and it is dog feces. I step up on the lower horizontal runner and look over to see my neighbor walking away. Just as I called to her, her dogs started barking as someone pulled into her front yard, so she didn't give any indication that she heard me and went to the front of the house. I called the sheriff to report the incident. He came out, took my statement, photographed the stain on my pants, the dog feces and area involved.
but as it turns out, there is no law against what she did. It didn't appear that she knew that I was there so she wasn't intentionally throwing it at me, so no assault; it wasn't into a public area or waterway, so no pollution charge; so the best the sheriff could come up with was littering. So he gave her a warning for littering and said my best approach, since I have trouble with this neighbor previously, was to contact the court and get an anti-harassment order entered. then if she persisted they could charge her with violating the court order.
So Monday I get to go to court and file paperwork to keep the thing and her stuff on her own property.
I think I'll also contact my state legislator and point out that there is no state law regarding this activity. I'm just glad she's not more of a minority than being a woman.
Comments
... since I have trouble with this neighbor previously..
So what is the back story?
So what is the back story? There has to be one.
there really isn't one- the woman is just a mental case that aggravates everyone she meets. She runs a restaurant in town, but locals patronize the place at most once- so she deals with tourists as her main clientele. she pushes the issue of property boundary on all sides, has a reputation as a real female dog with the law enforcement, is unable to have a live-in man for more than six months at a time. He kids are grown and seldom talk with her. She provides room & board to some of the waitstaff at the restaurant (in the house). She has had several code violations on her house and yard but is so adversarial that the city authorities avoid contact with her.
So we wait for her restaurant to go TU or for her to have a stress related collapse and in the meantime I'll get an anti-harassment order and write a letter to my state legislature requesting they pass a law regarding disposal of pet waste.
Not cool and whether or not legal a significant problem.
May pay to ask around with your neighbors and check informally with police.
of "storm" with your
neighbor is a tough thing.
One is always living with stress.
Good luck!
That is like someone spiting on you...
Not cool and whether or not legal a significant problem.
May pay to ask around with your neighbors and check informally with police.
Come on Woody, that is NOT the new jersey way[;)][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
Whatever you do, don't put her pet mess in a paper bag on her door step & set in on fire; the crime of arson will get you long jail time.
Neal
cow cookies on her. I would take that dog poop, pick it up with rubber gloves and go smear it on her car door and house door handles. I am not kidding. I am very much vindictive like that. Ask my wife. She is lucky I did walk over there with that poop and put it in her hair. I don't give a crap, I has the bail money[}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)]
+1
Social engineering is your friend.
Your first mistake was creating a reporting trail.
Wait 6 months, then take action.
Use your imagination. But use nothing that can be traced back to you.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Don't waste your time peeing against the tide.
Social engineering is your friend.
Your first mistake was creating a reporting trail.
Wait 6 months, then take action.
Use your imagination. But use nothing that can be traced back to you.
^^^^This. Patience, followed by stealth.
I have what I call Life Rule #1: You tell me the rules of the game. Then, I win.
If me and the neighbors are going to get along and behave, good deal. If not, it sucks to be them.
Then welcome the new neighbor when she moves out.[:D]
MIKE
Fixed it for ya!
I don't worry about dog poop. In my yard, the mower will get it sooner or later. Elsewhere, there are other mowers, and worms, and flies, and bacteria.
About 2 years ago one guy kept bringing his dog on the city property right across from our house. Neighbors park there and their kids play there also. Here he comes, I' am sitting outside in my wheelchair and he lets his huge German Shepard pinch a huge loaf right there. He keeps walking while I yell and swear. I waited about 5 minutes. Grabbed a large rag. Scooped it up and fired up the SRT8. I found him walking about a block from his house. Put the window down and threw the best crap pitch ever. Right in the head, it even knocked off his hat. 30 minutes later the police came. I got a warning, he got a ticket. He never did it since.
MIKE
If you're ever in northern Virginia, I'll buy you a beer. I don't know how many time I've wanted to do that but never have.
Merc
Your cops SUCK. If you threw dog poop on THEM, it'd be "assault" and you'd be in jail! They should have arrested her, at least. She might have beat the charge, but I don't think they are doing their jobs.
Merc
We discussed that. Since it appeared that she didn't know that I was there, we couldn't show intent. I prefer not to do something that I'm not willing to have done to me, so various levels of retaliation are not in order. doing so would only invalidate the thirty years of PTSD therapy that I've received. What will happen is there will be a new law in either Washington State or at least Chelan County and it will be named Kim's law, because it will be directed at the various problems that she has perpetrated on her neighbors. that will be sufficient revenge for me.
The couple were from Chicago and were pretty irate at someone telling them how to live their lives. After my youngest son took a slide on a well placed loaf in my side yard, I began scooping up any turd left in my yard and walked it to their yard and deposited there. This upset them greatly as they did not want it in their yard. I told them this would be my response every time. A couple of the other neighbors starting doing the same.
They finally caught on and cleaned up after their dog as required by local ordnance
If you're ever in northern Virginia, I'll buy you a beer. I don't know how many time I've wanted to do that but never have.
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Thanks, the police said they could charge me with assult. But after talking with the smartass kid they decided not to charge me but in fact ticket him. Here it's actually illegal to not clean up after your dog. To me that's just plain LAZY.
If you're ever in northern Virginia, I'll buy you a beer. I don't know how many time I've wanted to do that but never have.
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Thanks, the police said they could charge me with assult. But after talking with the smartass kid they decided not to charge me but in fact ticket him. Here it's actually illegal to not clean up after your dog. To me that's just plain LAZY.
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To me, it's just a damn shame we need a law to get folks to do the right thing.
A small amount of ground beef and some rat poison can eliminate the eliminators and deplete the neighbor's supply of ammunition. [8D]
no, a little beef with ground up ex-lax pills, the dog will never make it outside to poop
you wont have to worry about a solid turd being thrown on your property
Originally posted by Rocklobster
A small amount of ground beef and some rat poison can eliminate the eliminators and deplete the neighbor's supply of ammunition.
no, a little beef with ground up ex-lax pills, the dog will never make it outside to poop
you wont have to worry about a solid turd being thrown on your property
Poisoning of an animal, other than an insect, rat, or mouse, is double-plus cowardly, and deserving of very unpleasant consequences.
A small amount of ground beef and some rat poison can eliminate the eliminators and deplete the neighbor's supply of ammunition. [8D]
Poisoning a pet because of a lousy owner? It isn't the dogs fault. It did it's buisness where it was supposed to, in her yard. She then flung it over the fence.
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee