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No Law Against Throwing poop onto other peoples

Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
edited June 2015 in General Discussion
Property.

Yesterday while I was stooped over checking the moisture content of a raised garden out of the corner of my eye I see something coming over the fence (a 6' solid wood fence) and it hits me in the leg. I look down and it is dog feces. I step up on the lower horizontal runner and look over to see my neighbor walking away. Just as I called to her, her dogs started barking as someone pulled into her front yard, so she didn't give any indication that she heard me and went to the front of the house. I called the sheriff to report the incident. He came out, took my statement, photographed the stain on my pants, the dog feces and area involved.

but as it turns out, there is no law against what she did. It didn't appear that she knew that I was there so she wasn't intentionally throwing it at me, so no assault; it wasn't into a public area or waterway, so no pollution charge; so the best the sheriff could come up with was littering. So he gave her a warning for littering and said my best approach, since I have trouble with this neighbor previously, was to contact the court and get an anti-harassment order entered. then if she persisted they could charge her with violating the court order.

So Monday I get to go to court and file paperwork to keep the thing and her stuff on her own property.

I think I'll also contact my state legislator and point out that there is no state law regarding this activity. I'm just glad she's not more of a minority than being a woman.
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  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 24,455 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    save up few days worth of your own and return the favor in liquid form so it will not be so easy to clean up [}:)]front door area seems like a good target [:0]
  • mark christianmark christian Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 24,456 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ray B


    ... since I have trouble with this neighbor previously..


    So what is the back story?
  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would write "stop throwing this stuff into my yard" on a paper plate, put the "stuff" on the plate and leave it on her porch. Hopefully she will get the message.
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    So what is the back story? There has to be one.


    there really isn't one- the woman is just a mental case that aggravates everyone she meets. She runs a restaurant in town, but locals patronize the place at most once- so she deals with tourists as her main clientele. she pushes the issue of property boundary on all sides, has a reputation as a real female dog with the law enforcement, is unable to have a live-in man for more than six months at a time. He kids are grown and seldom talk with her. She provides room & board to some of the waitstaff at the restaurant (in the house). She has had several code violations on her house and yard but is so adversarial that the city authorities avoid contact with her.

    So we wait for her restaurant to go TU or for her to have a stress related collapse and in the meantime I'll get an anti-harassment order and write a letter to my state legislature requesting they pass a law regarding disposal of pet waste.
  • booter_onebooter_one Member Posts: 2,345
    edited November -1
    Health and safety comes to mind on this one. Good luck, kinda gives a new meaning of poop hitting the fan, neighbor. Some people just need to disappear.
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,204 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That is like someone spiting on you...

    Not cool and whether or not legal a significant problem.

    May pay to ask around with your neighbors and check informally with police.
  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    Getting into any kind
    of "storm" with your
    neighbor is a tough thing.
    One is always living with stress.
    Good luck!
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,519 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    cow cookies on her. I would take that dog poop, pick it up with rubber gloves and go smear it on her car door and house door handles. I am not kidding. I am very much vindictive like that. Ask my wife. She is lucky I did walk over there with that poop and put it in her hair. I don't give a crap, I has the bail money[}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)]
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,519 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    That is like someone spiting on you...

    Not cool and whether or not legal a significant problem.

    May pay to ask around with your neighbors and check informally with police.


    Come on Woody, that is NOT the new jersey way[;)][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
  • eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    i have dog owners on both sides of my land,one takes care to keep her dogs under control and on her land, the other lets their dogs out at 5:am and they come on my yard to relieve themselfs and after weeks of asking-threatening i called the dog enforcment officer and told him my problem. he showed up the next day and told the them that the next time the dogs were running loose he would ticket them(50.00 fine first time), so far so good. as far as throwing dog bababooey over the fence onto your yard, i would think of something to get her to stop. maybe on a dark rainy night things would happen. mr myopic.
  • fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,722
    edited November -1
    time for psycological warfair[^]
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,815 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We have a local ordinance against such a thing.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,875 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Generally, animal control laws are left up to the county. You may want to check to see if you have any type of animal control office where you live, as most enforce some regulation that requires clean up of pet mess.

    Whatever you do, don't put her pet mess in a paper bag on her door step & set in on fire; the crime of arson will get you long jail time.

    Neal
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's funny....LOL!
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Oakie
    cow cookies on her. I would take that dog poop, pick it up with rubber gloves and go smear it on her car door and house door handles. I am not kidding. I am very much vindictive like that. Ask my wife. She is lucky I did walk over there with that poop and put it in her hair. I don't give a crap, I has the bail money[}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)]


    +1
    RLTW

  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,310 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    Must be fun to live in town.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,041 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't waste your time peeing against the tide.

    Social engineering is your friend.

    Your first mistake was creating a reporting trail.

    Wait 6 months, then take action.

    Use your imagination. But use nothing that can be traced back to you.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,603 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As soon as the Sheriff said it was NOT against the law that's all I would need to hear. The next call he would get would be from a woman cover in crap from head to toe!
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    had this vision of a monty python catapult with about 50# of perfect poo returning high over the fence...with hysterical laughter
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 50,947 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Know anyone that owns a horse? If one dog poop is legal a bushel of road apples should be equally legal.
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 20,985 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd fling poo on her roof. It'll take a while before she figures that out with corn and all.
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    Don't waste your time peeing against the tide.

    Social engineering is your friend.

    Your first mistake was creating a reporting trail.

    Wait 6 months, then take action.

    Use your imagination. But use nothing that can be traced back to you.





    ^^^^This. Patience, followed by stealth.

    I have what I call Life Rule #1: You tell me the rules of the game. Then, I win.

    If me and the neighbors are going to get along and behave, good deal. If not, it sucks to be them.
  • DBMJR1DBMJR1 Member Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have a shrimp boil. Stay up late eating shrimp, and drinking beer with your friends. Dispose of the waste from the shrimp in her gutters, above her front door.

    Then welcome the new neighbor when she moves out.[:D]
  • roswellnativeroswellnative Member Posts: 10,105 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought this was a SHTF scenario. It's a the more dreaded SHTP ...
    Although always described as a cowboy, Roswellnative generally acts as a righter of wrongs or bodyguard of some sort, where he excels thanks to his resourcefulness and incredible gun prowesses.
  • BLKSRT8BLKSRT8 Member Posts: 631 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    About 2 years ago one guy kept bringing his dog on the city property right across from our house. Neighbors park there and their kids play there also. Here he comes, I' am sitting outside in my wheelchair and he lets his huge German Shepard pinch a huge loaf right there. He keeps walking while I yell and swear. I waited about 5 minutes. Grabbed a large rag. Scooped it up and fired up the SRT8. I found him walking about a block from his house. Put the window down and threw the best crap pitch ever. Right in the head, it even knocked off his hat. 30 minutes later the police came. I got a warning, he got a ticket. He never did it since.

    MIKE
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • scrumpyjackscrumpyjack Member Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 35,988 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Must be fun to live in town.
    Fixed it for ya!

    I don't worry about dog poop. In my yard, the mower will get it sooner or later. Elsewhere, there are other mowers, and worms, and flies, and bacteria.
  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    A small amount of ground beef and some rat poison can eliminate the eliminators and deplete the neighbor's supply of ammunition. [8D]
  • DPHMINDPHMIN Member Posts: 906 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually, it appears that your neighbor was helping you with some fertilizer for your garden.[:)] You need to send her a thank you note.
  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BLKSRT8
    About 2 years ago one guy kept bringing his dog on the city property right across from our house. Neighbors park there and their kids play there also. Here he comes, I' am sitting outside in my wheelchair and he lets his huge German Shepard pinch a huge loaf right there. He keeps walking while I yell and swear. I waited about 5 minutes. Grabbed a large rag. Scooped it up and fired up the SRT8. I found him walking about a block from his house. Put the window down and threw the best crap pitch ever. Right in the head, it even knocked off his hat. 30 minutes later the police came. I got a warning, he got a ticket. He never did it since.

    MIKE


    If you're ever in northern Virginia, I'll buy you a beer. I don't know how many time I've wanted to do that but never have.
  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your cops SUCK. If you threw dog poop on THEM, it'd be "assault" and you'd be in jail! They should have arrested her, at least. She might have beat the charge, but I don't think they are doing their jobs.

    Merc
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mercury
    Your cops SUCK. If you threw dog poop on THEM, it'd be "assault" and you'd be in jail! They should have arrested her, at least. She might have beat the charge, but I don't think they are doing their jobs.

    Merc


    We discussed that. Since it appeared that she didn't know that I was there, we couldn't show intent. I prefer not to do something that I'm not willing to have done to me, so various levels of retaliation are not in order. doing so would only invalidate the thirty years of PTSD therapy that I've received. What will happen is there will be a new law in either Washington State or at least Chelan County and it will be named Kim's law, because it will be directed at the various problems that she has perpetrated on her neighbors. that will be sufficient revenge for me.
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 24,585 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    About 20 years ago a new family moved into the neighborhood. They had a huge mutt that they walked a couple times a day around the area until it did it's business in someone else's yard. Then they returned home. Most of us has small children at our end of the subdivision. I know at least three of us asked them to clean up after their dog or keep it in their own yard.

    The couple were from Chicago and were pretty irate at someone telling them how to live their lives. After my youngest son took a slide on a well placed loaf in my side yard, I began scooping up any turd left in my yard and walked it to their yard and deposited there. This upset them greatly as they did not want it in their yard. I told them this would be my response every time. A couple of the other neighbors starting doing the same.

    They finally caught on and cleaned up after their dog as required by local ordnance
  • BLKSRT8BLKSRT8 Member Posts: 631 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [/quote]

    If you're ever in northern Virginia, I'll buy you a beer. I don't know how many time I've wanted to do that but never have.
    [/quote]

    Thanks, the police said they could charge me with assult. But after talking with the smartass kid they decided not to charge me but in fact ticket him. Here it's actually illegal to not clean up after your dog. To me that's just plain LAZY.
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BLKSRT8



    If you're ever in northern Virginia, I'll buy you a beer. I don't know how many time I've wanted to do that but never have.
    [/quote]

    Thanks, the police said they could charge me with assult. But after talking with the smartass kid they decided not to charge me but in fact ticket him. Here it's actually illegal to not clean up after your dog. To me that's just plain LAZY.
    [/quote]

    To me, it's just a damn shame we need a law to get folks to do the right thing.
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    A small amount of ground beef and some rat poison can eliminate the eliminators and deplete the neighbor's supply of ammunition. [8D]






    no, a little beef with ground up ex-lax pills, the dog will never make it outside to poop

    you wont have to worry about a solid turd being thrown on your property
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 35,988 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:quote:
    Originally posted by Rocklobster

    A small amount of ground beef and some rat poison can eliminate the eliminators and deplete the neighbor's supply of ammunition.


    no, a little beef with ground up ex-lax pills, the dog will never make it outside to poop

    you wont have to worry about a solid turd being thrown on your property

    Poisoning of an animal, other than an insect, rat, or mouse, is double-plus cowardly, and deserving of very unpleasant consequences.
  • jev1969jev1969 Member Posts: 2,691
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    A small amount of ground beef and some rat poison can eliminate the eliminators and deplete the neighbor's supply of ammunition. [8D]


    Poisoning a pet because of a lousy owner? It isn't the dogs fault. It did it's buisness where it was supposed to, in her yard. She then flung it over the fence.
  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,148 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't take revenge out on the dogs, they're just doing what's natural.....go after the owners [;)]

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

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