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mounts for arisaka

wsdgumpwsdgump Member Posts: 9 ✭✭
edited September 2008 in Ask the Experts
does anyone know what number mounts fit a arisaka rifle. weaver redfield or any other . thanks for the help

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    Wehrmacht_45Wehrmacht_45 Member Posts: 3,377
    edited November -1
    Not without altering the rifle by drilling or tapping which would ruin a piece of history and its collectible value.
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    GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 16,825 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As above......Get another rifle and leave the Jap in its factory state,,imo,,nambu
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    Wehrmacht_45Wehrmacht_45 Member Posts: 3,377
    edited November -1
    Many of these guns are also unsafe to fire since they were made from poor materials towards the end of the war. Even good and safe ones are crude by any standards. I recommend finding an already sporterized Mauser 98, Springfield 1903 or 1917, or Enfield if you want a military based gun with good accuracy, quality, and availability of accessories.
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    v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you're determined to chop it up, a Redfield Jr mount will fit.
    The bolt can't be bent. It has to be cut off, welded and ground to clear the scope eyepiece.
    You can turn down a carbon rod to fit inside the bolt, then build up a ramp with weld to make it cock on opening. Then there's the bad trigger that needs work.
    Take off all metal from the stock, install a muzzle brake and you have a "Hunt in The Rain Mountain Rifle".
    Better yet, don't spend a dime on that piece of junk but sell it to a collector.
    You can get more for it than it's worth as a rifle.
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    TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you need a scope and don't want to alter the rifle, use a S&K Insta Mount Scout mount and LER scope.
    http://www.scopemounts.com/index.html?main.html

    JapArasakaScout.JPG
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    slumlord44slumlord44 Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would not recomend modifing an original gun. I have to disagree with the comments that thes guns are junk. The action is tough and mine are as accrate as any WWII vintage millitary rifle. The last ditch rifles are iffy and there are training rifles that were not ment to be shot and should not be shot. The rest are great shooters if in sound mechanical condition with a decent bore.
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    p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750
    edited November -1
    Neglected Trophies

    When I was growing up, no one paid a bit of attention to World War II souvenir Arisakas. They could be had for $15 to $25 apiece and were considered utterly inferior to western arms. In fact, in the post-war period, anything made in Japan was considered cheap and inferior. The prevailing opinion was that the Japanese could copy anything but lacked originality and inventiveness. In the context of the Arisaka, that was about to change with the publication of P.O. Ackley's military action blow-up and metallurgy tests in the 1950s.

    Well known graduate engineer and gunsmith, Parker O. Ackley decided to find out once and for all how strong our various military actions were. Rounding up an assortment of Springfield, Mauser, Enfield P-14 and No 1 MkIII, Krag and Arisaka M38 and M99 actions, be barreled and chambered each action type for the .270 Ackley Magnum or .30-40 Ackley Improved cartridge.

    Each action was then fired with a series of progressively hotter loads until the action was wrecked. The only action that survived these tests was the M38 Arisaka. The 1 3/16 inch bull barrels fitted to the M38 actions were split or blown off, but the actions remained serviceable and intact. The machined M99 Arisaka action proved to be the second strongest action of the group tested.

    Shortly thereafter, the NRA reported testing a M38 in 6.5x50 caliber that had been rechambered for the .30-'06 cartridge by its enterprising owner who indeed hunted with this insane combination. Just imagine firing a .308" diameter bullet down a .264" bore at the pressures generated by the .30-'06 cartridge. The Arisaka digested the load without a hitch although the owner complained that the rifle kicked a lot!

    Sending one of the M38 actions to a leading beat treating firm for analysis, Ackley received the following reports:

    "The design of the receiver appears to be in some respects superior to the Springfield and Mauser from the standpoint of simplicity of machining and inletting. The receiver was not only carefully but even elaborately heat treated. Its heat treatment appears to be superior to the average Mauser, Springfield and Enfield."

    The results surprised everyone involved, and the Arisaka action earned a bit of well-deserved respect.


    It's pretty obvious that anyone who says they're junk is either not real knowledgeable and/or has never had any experience with one.
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    FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
    edited November -1
    Ditto. But alot of the mis-info was generated by the U.S. Govt. as propaganda during WW-2 o bolster morale.
    The Marines going into Guadalcanal were told they would be facing low powered .25 caliber weapons. The 6.5 T-38 is indeed approx .25 cal. But far from the pip-squeak round the Marines were told.
    More bad rep was aquired by soldiers aquiring and attempting to fire Japanese Trainer rifes that were intended and clearly marked (in Japanese) for BLANKS ONLY. As well as the late war "Last Ditch" T-99's that were of much less quality and of questionable safety.
    THe Japanese made their arms of very utilitarian appearence.But the Pre-war T-38's (and variants) and Early to mid war T-99's were of very good quality.
    I have seen many Arisaka's with bent bolt handles. We call them "Bubbatised". So it is IMO possible to bend a bolt handle.
    WW-2 Jap sniper rifles used a side mounted scope and Arsenal bent bolt.
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    MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member, Moderator Posts: 9,996 ******
    edited November -1
    TO (FINALY) ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YOU NEED A WEAVER # 70 BASE (BROWNELL'S PART # 955-010-070). ALSO TIMNEY IS (AGAIN) MGF. AN ADJUSTABLE TRIGGER W/SIDE SAFTY FOR THIS RIFLE.
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