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Paypal for firearms sales?

snoodsnood Member Posts: 64 ✭✭
edited February 2006 in Ask the Experts
Is it true that Paypal will not handle transactions involving firearms? Thanks

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    DaBowMan18DaBowMan18 Member Posts: 2,962
    edited November -1
    yes. they won't take transactions that are firearms.
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That is, those that they know involve firearms. As you long as both parties are aware of this, & don't mention anything to them, they have no way of knowing.

    Neal
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    duckhunterduckhunter Member Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If a firearm is involved and you have a claim. SORRY>
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you read the fine print there are numerous problems that paypal can cause you for breaking the firearm rule. Since you have given them access to your checking account AND the permission to go in and make transactions from that account or credit card you are open to losing a lot of money.

    They can freeze your account, ALL OF IT and take their sweet time "investigating" the matter.

    Paypal/fleabay is anti-gun. Trying to circumvent that fact can only lead to some future heartburn.

    Why on Gods green earth you would allow that possible disaster to happen when there are better ways to pay seems like a waste of time to me.
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    Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Iam buying an item here on GB right now. I called the seller to take care of it with my credit card.

    He told me that paypal cancelled his account with them because he sold some "AMMO" using paypal. Paypal is not only anti-gun, but also anti-ammo.
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    stunguffstunguff Member Posts: 9 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you read the fine print in the paypal agreement the policy does not allow the sale of modern firearms nor "curios". One can see that an expert in arms or a lawyer made up the agreement, which technically should allow the use of paypal for the sale of antique arms. I wrote to them asking about this aspect of the policy and they cancelled my paypal account just for writing. I had to threaten legal action just to get my account back. So now I stay away from paypal for anything that even closely resembles a gun, new or old.
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    MooseyardMooseyard Member Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Knowing that Paypal is anti-gun, why would you do business with them? It is the same with Fleabay. They don't get any business from me!
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    sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Snood,

    It's true. I don't know how much anti-gun Paypal actually is but I know the big driver behind it which no one will address is the INSURANCE COMPANIES! In order to operate, fleabay, who used to have firearm sales by the way, must carry some kind of liability insurance. Same with paypal. They don't want to pay higher premiums and they don't want to get sued and possibly lose their lower rate for conductin firearms sales. I don't have access to the books but I'm betting that GG here or over at AA they pay, just like a Firearms store, about 3 times the premium of a regular retail store. Picture that by the volume that fleabay and paypal do.

    In the past, I have used paypal for "grey area" purchases. What I do is use a $500.00 limit card and if the price is over that then I pay the card up to that amount. I never use the description 'firearm'. If you think they will track you, code your auction number to your seller or buyer. I don't think it is theirs, or the insurance companies business, how I spend my money. I am within the law as far as the BATF is concerned.

    To give an example of how the insurance companies operate. We here in Minnesota passed a concealed and carry law. A few anti-gun stores wanted to know how they could block it. The law stated you had to post it outside your store in a certain size sign. Most stores didn't care, But pretty soon you saw these signs in almost every window. I asked the proprietor of that business why because I knew he was a shooter. He flat out told me his insurance company was going to triple his rate if he didn't. My wife who used to work for a certain insurance company based out of Central wisconsin(their logo is standing holding a rifle) asked one of her former co-workers if they were doing it and they said yes they were. Rates went higher if you didn't post a sign saying no weapons in your store. So, Paypal and Fleabay may be anti-gun but I assure you there is a bigger driver behind it.

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    Another interesting item of note, I went get a cashiers check to pay for an auction and the bank had to check the name to make sure that individual wasn't a terrorist.
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't buy the argument that fleabay/payplow is concerned about insurance or legal liability. If they were, they wouldn't permit the sale of knives. Or cars.

    Neal
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    JKJK Member Posts: 223 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have had a nasty deal with pay pal and would never again do anything through or for them. It was truly a bag of snakes that I resolved ONE YEAR LATER. NOTHING gun related, and the trouble was on THEIR end. Beware giving them any information that can harm you.
    Quote for the day: When Bob Hope was asked the question,"Do seniors have an active sex life?", he replied, "Absolutely! As a matter of fact, I like the one in the SPRING the best."
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    IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    fleaBARF and payPUKE already have higher fees than GB or the competing sites . . . insurance may enter into the decision, but when you look at the ownership of fleaBARF and their extensive contributions to the organizations / candidates dedicated to eradicating the right of private individuals to keep & bear arms, the primary reason for this policy jumps out and slaps you silly. They are the enemy, folks!
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    sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Iconoclast, JK, nmyers,

    I won't disagree with you about how anti-gun paypal and fleabay are. I was not aware of who they support politically who is anti-gun. If you have information to that effect please post it. It would be good information to share.

    What I do say and I know this to be fact is that insurance companies are upping the cost of having guns around. I will make the statement that I am sure that to some extent they drive some companies away from doing business in the firearms trade.
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    1KYDSTR1KYDSTR Member Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ditto, Iconoclast!! Bunch of Nazi swine. Sandwarrior: the Insurance companies (the vast majority anyway) ARE as bad as you say...I work for one. We take money from firearms producers and are involved at the other end in legislating them out of existance. Truely sickening.
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    Wehrmacht_45Wehrmacht_45 Member Posts: 3,377
    edited November -1
    Google recently denied advertising for a Gun Forum my friend started. It violated their policy for promoting firearms ownership. Its funny that they allow porn advertising but guns are obscene. I hate whats happening to this nation.
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