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winchester 70 question

DokeyDokey Member Posts: 872 ✭✭
edited February 2012 in Ask the Experts
Howdy from Texas! Sorry to be forever buggin' you guys! I have a Win. Model 70 in 7 Mag. It has a lightweight synthetic stock, and no ploorplate. If I want to restock this rifle, do I have to find a stock that has no opening for a floorplate, or can I have this rifle altered to have a magazine floorplate that opens from the bottom? I hate this stock, but I haven't seen a replacement that didn't have an opening in the bottom for the magazine floorplate. Any suggestions are very much appreciated, as usual. Thanks, Barry L.

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  • DokeyDokey Member Posts: 872 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did Winchester in the late 1940's ever produce a model 70 target in 257 roberts with a marksman stock and 24" barrel?
  • DokeyDokey Member Posts: 872 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester 70 with "XTR" stamped on the barrel. Is XTR the Express model?

    Thank you.
  • DokeyDokey Member Posts: 872 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently acquired a Winchester 70 in .270. I'm contemplating having it converted to a 30-06 or .308, mainly due to ammo cost and availability in those calibers. I'm much more familiar with handguns and military type rifles than hunting rifles. Would converting calibers be just a matter of switching barrels, or would there be more that would have to be done? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
  • drl50drl50 Member Posts: 2,496
    edited November -1
    According to Roger Rule's Rifleman's Rifle,Yes. The 24" barrel (medium heavy) was standard for the .257 Roberts Target until 1951.
  • DokeyDokey Member Posts: 872 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks, is there any info on how many were made?
  • drl50drl50 Member Posts: 2,496
    edited November -1
    Okay. Here is some data that I find. 257 Roberts standard target cataloged 1937-1951. Then available again 1952-1953 on special order.
    There were 581,471 Pre-64 model 70s made. 14,644 were Target Models (does not include Nat'l Match). I do not find a further breakdown of that number by chambering but there is a Relative rarity of chamberings within the "Target" model (1= rarest, 10= most common)
    1- .35 Rem (least common)
    2- 7mm
    3- .22 hornet
    4- 250-3000
    5- 300 H&H
    6- .270 WCF
    7- .257 Roberts
    8- .220 Swift
    9- .243 Win
    10- .30-06 (most common)

    The vast majority of Target rifles were 30-06. The only specific quantity available for this list of 10 was for the .243 which was 683. Therefore the .257 Roberts is fewer than that and the 06 would be in the thousands. Not exactly the answer you seek, but a little closer.
  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682
    edited November -1
    You should clarify #2 7mm, means 7x57 Mauser. A lot of folks will think that means 7mm remington Magnum.

    Best
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    You should clarify #2 7mm, means 7x57 Mauser. A lot of folks will think that means 7mm remington Magnum.

    Best
    7mm is how it was stamped. 7mm mag was 50 years later.
  • oneoldsaponeoldsap Member Posts: 563 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well not quite 50 years , more like 11 if you use 1951 as the stop date . The Mauser was the only 7mm around at that time !
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by oneoldsap
    Well not quite 50 years , more like 11 if you use 1951 as the stop date . The Mauser was the only 7mm around at that time !
    ......and the 7mm mag was never made in the pre 64 Winchesters. 7mm (7x57) has been around since the 1800's
  • Riomouse911Riomouse911 Member Posts: 3,463 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually there were lots of 7mm's about in that era, but only one was American by birth: 280 Ross (1906) 280 Jefferey (1915) 275 H&H (1911), 7x64 Brenneke (1917), 7x73 Vom Hofe (1931), 7x72R (1934), 7x33 SAKO (1942), and the 7mm Weatherby (1944)...

    But you're right that that M-70 model was only chambered in the 7x57 Mauser.
  • drl50drl50 Member Posts: 2,496
    edited November -1
    The original question was how many Model 70 Target Models were manufactured in .257 Roberts. The answer is probably somewhere around 600, give or take. The purpose of the caliber list was to show the numbers of that caliber in relation to others. As was previously stated, that is how the rifle was stamped and that is how it is listed in the book.I think the author presumes the reader understands what 7mm is applicable to Pre-64 Model 70 rifles.
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