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Dan Wesson value?

remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,245 ✭✭✭
edited November 2008 in Ask the Experts
I don't know to much about Dan Wesson model W12 so I thought I ask here.

I have an opportunity to buy a model w12 .357 mag, It has Three barrels,(2", 4" and 6") comes with a case, (aluminum) and of course wrench. It feels tight, the bluing shows very little wear, except were the cylinder advance (name escapes me) has wore on the cylinder. The guy wanted a grand for it. What is the most it's worth, and could you tell me the pros and cons of it.

My son and daughter-in-law just got their CCW permits, so I would like to buy them their carry guns for X-Mas. Darn Son wants something that he could use for deer hunting and carry in a wheel gun, and here in Utah you have to have at least a .357 mag with a 4" barrel. I think that is to big for a CCW, so I thought that a Dan Wesson with 2 barrel and a 4', or 6' barrel would be better for him.

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    brier-49brier-49 Member Posts: 7,061 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's about a $300-350 gun here.
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    perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,107 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like a good plan to me EXCEPT price seems to be past the point of you being able to buy TWO pistols one short barrel to carry and another one to hunt with [:(]
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    remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,245 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was thinking if I could get it for about 6-8 hundred, but doesnt sound like 2 two extra barrels would bring it up to even that much. Thanks for the info
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    dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,969
    edited November -1
    Go to the auction side and look at auctions that ended in the last 90 days. There is one like you are looking at that sold for $460. There is a four barrel pac that has a $795 bid on it.
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    grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Also check http://www.danwessonforum.com/

    A pistol pack brings I more money, if it is in Stainless the $1000 would be good.

    But Blued $6-700 think I paid $650 for mine. A 4 barrel pack.

    Do not thik the case is original either since they did not come in Aluminum. Fake leather was what it had.

    Also not familiar with that Model number. I took this from the Dan Wesson Forum .

    quote:Models starting with a 7 are stainless guns.
    Service models had fixed rear sights
    Target models have adjustable rear sights

    Small frame models
    8-2 (.38 Special) Service
    9-2 (.38 Special) Target
    11 (357 Mag) Service Pork Chop
    12 (357 Mag) Target Pork Chop
    14 (357 Mag) Service Pork Chop
    14-2 (.357 Mag) Service
    15 (357 Mag) Target Pork Chop
    14 (357 Mag) Service
    15 (357 Mag) Target
    15-2 (.357 Mag) Target
    22 (22LR) Target
    22M (.22 Win. Mag) Target
    32 (32 H&R Mag)
    3220 (32-20 Winchester)
    708 (.38 Special) Service
    709 (.38 Special) Target
    714 (.357 Mag) Service
    715 (.357 Mag) Target
    722 (.22 Long Rifle) Target
    722M (.22 Win. Mag) Target
    732 (32 H&R Mag) stainless
    73220 (32-20 Winchester) stainless
    738P (38Sp +P)

    Large frame
    41 (41 Magnum)
    44 (44 Magnum)
    45 (45 Long Colt)
    741 (41 Magnum) stainless
    744 (44 Magnum) stainless
    745 (45 Long Colt) stainless
    7360 (360 Dan Wesson) stainless Norwich Production only
    7460 (460 Rowland) stainless only Norwich production only also fires 45 acp, 45 Win Mag

    Supermag Frame
    40 (357 Supermag- 357 Maximum)
    740 (357 Supermag - 357 Maximum) stainless
    375 (375 Supermag) Blued only Palmer production only
    7414 (414 Supermag) stainless Palmer production 25 units Norwich production very limited (Don't know if blued was ever produced???)
    445 (445 Supermag)
    7445 (445 Supermag) stainless

    Single Action
    During the Palmer manufacture period (Wesson Firearms Co., Inc) there were some single action only 22 caliber target guns manufactured . These models were only manufactured in blue or stainless with 10" barrel assemblies, either vent or vent heavy. The single action only guns were designated with a 6 before the model number.

    622-V10 Blue, single action only 22 cal.
    622-VH10 Blue, single action only 22 cal.
    6722-V10 stainless, single action only 22 cal.
    6722VH10 stainless, single action only 22 cal.

    Barrel Configurations
    Because of the Dan Wesson interchangeable barrel system, when the guns were sold, the barrel size and type was usually part of the model designation. Obviously this would change if the user changed the barrel, but it is still an interesting part of the Dan Wesson equation.

    1). Standard barrels having the solid rib without the heavy underlug were usually designated by the barrel length alone.

    For example, as per the information posted above, a 357 magnum with adjustable sights is a model 15.

    The same gun with the standard 8" barrel becomes a model 15-8

    2). Barrels with the vent rib get a V prefix.

    So our model 15 with an 8" vent rib barrel becomes a model 15-V8

    3). The Heavy Underlug adds an H to the designation

    So a Heavy vent rib 8" equipped gun becomes a model 15-VH8

    4). The slots cut on some of the silhouette shrouds add an S to the end.

    The most common was the 357 Supermag model 40 (or 740 stainless)

    So a model 740 stainless with the 8" vent rib and slotted shroud is a model 740-V8S

    Yes, there were even some heavy underlug slotted guns (don't know why)

    So then a 740 vent rib, heavy underlug, slotted shroud gun is a model 740-VH8S

    In Summary:

    V = Vent Rib

    H = Heavy Underlug

    2,4,6,8,10,12,15 = barrel length (12" and 15" were only available for 357 magnum model 15 and 715)

    S = Slotted Shroud

    Also note the barrel length is the actual length of the barrel, from the forcing cone to the muzzle crown. The shroud length is obviously less because of the area the barrel screws through the frame.

    The Pistol Pac and Hunters Pac.

    From very early on, the Dan Wesson Revolver has been offered as a Pistol Pac. Over the years, the contents of the Pistol Pac changed some, but most contained the following Items.

    1.) Dan Wesson Revolver with an 8" barrel assembly.

    2.) Extra barrel assemblies in 2 1/2", 4" , and 6" length.

    3.) An extra grip

    4.) 4 additional front sight blades (2 white or red, and 2 yellow)

    5.) A belt buckle

    6.) A Dan Wesson logo patch

    7.) A wrench kit

    8.) A Carrying Case

    Pistol Pacs were designated by a "P" then the model number of the revolver frame, then the barrel shroud type (blank) for standard, "V" for vent, "VH" for Vent Heavy

    Example:

    P-715 = Stainless 357 mag. standard barrel shroud

    P-41-V = Blued 41 magnum, Vent rib barrel shroud

    P-745-VH = stainless 45 long colt, Vent Heavy Pistol Pac

    The Hunter Pac was offered in all Magnum calibers from 22 magnum up through 445 Supermag (even the 375 was a catalog item)

    The Hunter Pac contained the following items:

    1). Dan Wesson Revolver with an 8" Vent Heavy Shroud.

    2). A Vent 8" Shroud (only, no extra barrel), equipped with Burris scope mounts and a Burris scope in either 11/2x-4x variable or 2x fixed.

    3). Barrel changing tool

    4). Dan Wesson logo patch

    5). Carrying case

    Hunters Pacs were identified by an "HP" before the model number and then a "V" for variable scope or a "2" for fixed power scope.

    Example:

    HP22M-V = 22magnum blue with 1 1/2x - 4x scope

    HP744-2 = 44 magnum stainless with 2x fixed scope.

    Other Interesting Information

    The most common small frame guns are the model 15 and 15-2, the thought is the -2 guns have minor differences when Monson started manufacturing the guns and labeled it the -2. One of the changes noted is shape of the hammer.

    When Bob Serva bought the Dan Wesson company and moved it to Norwich NY, he retooled the shop with all new CNC machines and the first guns he produced were marked "First issue" they went back to labeling the model 15 and 715 dropping the -2.

    There is also a SuperRam Silhouette version available in many calibers, Norwich production with an under cut partridge front sight covered with a slab-sided hood, the rear sight is a Bomar with 18 clicks per revolution. These guns are marked with a SRS-1 on the barrel hood.

    The Model 11 service and the model 12 target both had the pork chop barrel shrouds and the exposed barrel nut on the end. The early Model 14 and 15 had the pork chop barrel shrouds, but the barrel nut was recessed. The pork chop shroud was redesigned to the current style when the model designation was changed to 14-2 and 15-2.

    The stainless .38 Special Action Cup with the large slab barrel shroud was just designated as the "Action Cup", no numerical model number.
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