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Which is it?

n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
edited May 2015 in Ask the Experts
My husband was meticulous about labeling, but I've run into a problem. This box of bullets has one identification on one side of the box, but something different on the other side? Any ideas?

One side says .30 cal 147 gr, but the other side says .302 147 gr.
TIA,
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,637 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    More than likely there's a micrometer laying around the reloading bench somewhere. Measure the diameter of one of the bullets. Odds are they'll mic out to .302". Most common '30 cal' bullets will be .308, so I'm not sure what these'll fit. One of the really smart fellas should be along any minute to fill us in on that.

    Edit,
    .302 is equivalent to 7.67mm, if that helps anything.
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    charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,579 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    .302 is like a 7.35 x 51 Carcano. Use the scales to check the weight and the dial caliper to check the diameter.

    added A long time back I bought a big sack of pulled 30 Cal FMJ that were not boattails but were very cheap. I don't remember the weight but they were.302 and the guy selling them said they were from the Carcano.

    7.35 Carcano .298

    7.5 Swiss .306

    7.5 French .310

    7.65 Argentine .313

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_mm_caliber
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    Hawk CarseHawk Carse Member Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A micrometer would tell the tale. Ask around among your husband's friends, most handloaders have one.
    I don't know what a .302" bullet would be good for. 7.35 Italian is right at .300".
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    waltermoewaltermoe Member Posts: 1,918 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They look like 147 grain FMJ (full metal jacket) bullets to me, I load quite a few of them and that's what they look like. The 302 I don't know what that would relate too, as 30 caliber bullets should be .308, the S following the 147 could be his own code for solid, some people call FMJ bullets solids or ball ammo.
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    Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your husband sorted by diameter, as well as weight. Probably got a bunch of surplus and culled out the worst offenders
    Those are at the low end of tolerance for a 30cal bullet (.308 is the NOMINAL size, with a +/- tolerance).
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
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    62fuelie62fuelie Member Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Could also be for the 7.5 Swiss or the 7.5 French or 7.35 Argentine
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    p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750
    edited November -1
    Since the .30 marking is original and the .302 was added, I would think .302 is correct. I would do it the same way, but oblitherate the original marking just for such occasions as this.
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    buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    .302 is ".30 cal". since a .302 isn't ringing a bell with any of the braniacs you need to get a mic and check them all over again if you want to avoid disappointment.
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    tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I might think that if your husband was this stringent, and that's a good thing, that these might be some custom sized bullets, as the 0.302's are hard to find.

    I truly think these started life as the standard 7.62mm/0.308" diameter 147 grain FMJ type bullets, and were bumped down for use in a rifle with a smaller bore.

    And to be PEFRECTLY CLEAR, 0.300" IS 30 caliber, not 0.302", or 0.308". More so, 30 caliber is a bore diameter, not a bullet/projectile diameter.

    Best
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