A. Greener Double Barrel

mackcrane

Saw a Greener Double Barrel on the Auction side with Laminated barrels. Is that the same as Damascus? Thanks.

Hawk Carse

There were a lot of different patterns of forge welded barrels in those days. I figure that all Damascus is laminated but not all Laminated is Damascus.
Greener said it was better, but I doubt it is enough stronger to matter. All Damascus cautions apply.

navc130

Short answer, yes, they mean the same thing. Laminated is the better description.

mackcrane

Thanks fellers, it's still there at $50 but below reserve. Wallhanger I guess but I ain't got a wall at the present time. THEY won't let me do it here at the "HOME ON THE HILL".[8D]

Hawk Carse

Got an auction number?
I'd like to see a Greener for $50.
Note: There are a lot of fake Greeners. As W.W. said, the only thing with more knockoffs in his day was Westley Richards.

Found it. You really meant "A. Greener" not a "Greener."
One of the many Belgian made knockoffs of name brand British shotguns. Wall hanger for sure.

He Dog

quote: I figure that all Damascus is laminated but not all Laminated is Damascus.

I agree, they are not the same.

Txs

Odds are great it's a Belgian gun, but I've read that William Greener (as in W.W.Greener) had a son named Albert who immigrated to the US in the mid-1800's and ended up producing a small number of guns himself.

There's always the outside chance that it's one of these.

Knifecollector

maybe this one ?
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=511035642

Hawk Carse

That's the one I found and it is covered up with Belgian proof marks.

v35

W.W. Greener made fine shotguns and they're marked W.W. Greener.