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Calif gun laws

wyoming samwyoming sam Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
edited March 2009 in Ask the Experts
Wondered if anyone could tell me tthe rules on sending a C&R rifle ( win 95} to a C&R dealer in Calif.
Thank you
Wyoming Sam

Comments

  • 25wcf25wcf Member Posts: 43 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pretty straightforward. For C&R long guns, get a copy of the buyer's C&R FFL and ship to the premises address listed on the license. California's firearms licensee check program (CFLC) that went into effect last year does not apply to Curio & Relic licenses.
  • dfletcherdfletcher Member Posts: 8,162 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 25wcf
    Pretty straightforward. For C&R long guns, get a copy of the buyer's C&R FFL and ship to the premises address listed on the license. California's firearms licensee check program (CFLC) that went into effect last year does not apply to Curio & Relic licenses.


    Correct - I have the C & R Type 03 and sending a C & R eligible rifle directly to a C & R license holder does not require going through CFLC.
  • EOD GuyEOD Guy Member Posts: 931
    edited November -1
    As long as the rifle is over 50 years old, you can ship directly to a C&R FFL holder in California.
  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are also a good number of guns that are less than 50 years old that are on the C&R list and can be shipped to C&R holders directly.

    In Calif C&R "handguns" must go through an 01 FFL to the C&R licensee. I have a C&R, live in Ca, and have had M1 Carbines, Mausers and etc shipped right to my home.
  • EOD GuyEOD Guy Member Posts: 931
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Laredo Lefty
    There are also a good number of guns that are less than 50 years old that are on the C&R list and can be shipped to C&R holders directly.

    In Calif C&R "handguns" must go through an 01 FFL to the C&R licensee. I have a C&R, live in Ca, and have had M1 Carbines, Mausers and etc shipped right to my home.


    Yes, there are a lot of C&R firearms that are less than 50 years old. However, California law requires that they be transferred through a California dealer. They cannot be directly transferred to a California C&R FFL holder.

    California law only allows C&R rifles and shotguns that are over fifty years old to be transferred without going through a dealer.

    Here is a short breakdown of California law (with Penal Code references) pertaining to C&R firearms.

    quote:There is a lot of confusion around concerning the California regulations on C&R Firearms. The first thing to remember is that California, with few exceptions, requires all firearms transfers in the state to be processed through a dealer [Penal Code 12072(d)]. There is no exception for C&R FFL holders. There is however, an exception to the dealer transfer requirement for C&R rifles and shotguns that are over 50 years old. [PC 12078(t)(2)] This exception is available to anyone legally able to possess firearms. California doesn?_Tt care if you are licensed or not, that?_Ts a Federal matter. The 50 year rifle and shotgun exception is the reason that C&R FFL holders in California can receive these types of firearms directly from an out of state supplier.

    The California definition for a C&R firearm is exactly the same as that used by BATF in 27CFR. California references both Title 18 and 27 CFR for the definition. If the Feds say a firearm is C&R, so does the California DOJ.

    There are a couple of exceptions to the firearms laws that are available to C&R FFL holders. If the licensee also holds a Certificate of Eligibility (COE) from the California DOJ, they are exempt from the 10-day waiting period when buying C&R firearms from a dealer. [PC 12078(t)(1)] The same C&R FFL holder with a COE is also exempt from the one handgun a month law for both C&R and modern handguns. [PC 12072(a)(9)(B)] You also would not need a handgun safety certificate when purchasing C&R handguns. [PC 12807(a)(6)]


    Where the C&R FFL comes in handy is when the holder is out of the state. They may purchase any C&R firearm and bring it back to California. The exceptions of course include those ?_oevil?__ ?_oassault weapons?__. Also, magazines with a capacity greater than 10 rounds cannot be brought back. Any C&R handguns purchased must be registered with the California DOJ within 5 days and are reported on Form BCIA 4100A along with a $19.00 payment for each handgun. [PC 12072(f)(3)] The form is now on the California DOJ web site, forms section.
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