Looking for info on a Mauser 3000 EDIT:Need Value

317wc

Hello all, I am looking for info on an action I have, it is a Mauser 2000 or 3000, I am not sure which. ON the top of the front receiver ring it is marked Mauser,on the right side of the front ring it looks like it says "Pat.angern Made in Germany" On the cocking piece it says "Original Mauser" It is gloss blue, magnum bolt face, round bottom, with a large lug that looks like it was possbile TIG welded on. ON the left hand side of the action it says
"Mauser-Werke A.G. Oberndorf a.N. Model 2000", only the 2 is over-stamped with the number 3. It is a push-feed type like a Remington or Savage.

My questions are these, one, is this a desirable action? It seems well amde and solid. Secondly, any way of telling how old this is and what it may be worth? The serial number is 94509.

EDIT
Thanks a bunch.

Hello all, and thanks for the help so far. I just got a job on Afognak Island in Alaska this summer, and will be selling a few of my guns to help finance the plane ticket, equipment, etc. I still have this action and am looking for a rough value. I would say its in about 95% condition. It is only the complete bolt with safety and shroud, as well as the reciever. No trigger or bottom metal. It has been drilled and tapped, and that looks factory. I do have a couple of questions.

1: Any idea as to a rough value? It seems like an extremely well amde action, but I am afriad be will be put off because it is not a Savage/Rem/Winchester.

2: Will a standard or commercial magnum magazine box fit this action? Numrichs is out of stock for mag. boxes and the only one I have here for comparison is for my M94, which does't fit.

3: Do these actions take standard diameter M98 barrels? I realize that a good builder would cut his own threads but it would be a nice selling feature if a standard M98 barrel would fit.

Thats it for now, thanks for the help so far, the people on this forum seem to be a fountain of info.

Pearyw

I have a 3000 that I got in 1975 and it has a 92xxx serial no. These were actually made by Heym for Mauser. Mine is a left handed 375 H&H.

nononsense

317wc,

The Mauser 2000 and 3000 were originally designed by an engineer at Heym which were released as the SR10 and SR20 rifles. These were designed specifically to be inexpensive to manufacturer for export to countries such as the U.S. Mauser-Werke leased the idea and space to manufacturer from Heym thus the Mauser Original roll mark.

The serial numbers started with 67110 in 1968 and ended with 95204 in 1974.

Both actions were made from round bar stock supplied by Krupp steel. They should remind you of a push feed action since that's what they are. The difference between the 2000 and the 3000 is that the 3000 came without iron sights and had a soft rubber recoil pad. The recoil lugs were welded on rather than being machined in one-piece as the original Mausers were. These were distributed by Bauer-Mauser in Michigan.

Best.

317wc

Nononsense, Pearyw thank you for the info, I got this action in a trade relatively cheaply, and have had some difficulty finding info on it. Seems like a quality action, I will probably hold onto it. Thanks again

Pearyw

Nononsense, my 3000 375 H&H has iron sights. It does have a thick recoil pad.

nononsense

Pearyw,

Congratulations! That means you didn't have to add them afterwards to get a proper rifle! [:)]

As I've stated on numerous occasions, there are always going to be exceptions to any of the descriptions regarding firearms manufacturing/sales and this is no different. The .375 H&H has always been considered to be a Big Game rifle which didn't need a scope but worked better at close ranges with open or iron sights. So your configuration doesn't surprise me at all.

There are other discrepancies over the entire production run which I didn't go into either. There are reference books to cover each of the little vagaries that aren't necessary to touch on here.

Best.

nononsense

317wc,

I can add a little more but I'm not sure how positive it will be for you.

"No trigger or bottom metal."

This can be a significant rub for virtually everyone unless someone happens to have access to these parts. The trigger I think, is similar to the older Voere triggers on models such as the Shikar or slightly more recent Kleinguenther K-14, etc. But sources for these may be just as weak.

The action screw spacing is shorter than the Mauser M98 so finding bottom metal may present a problem. Quite honestly, I don't have time to do this research for you. There is the possibility that another manufacturer or model will fit or you could get a blank (no holes drilled) and place them yourself. Since you don't have the stock, it won't matter. The bottom metal used will be inletted to fit. Using just the box, you could sell it as an 'ADL'-style using an internal magazine, without bottom metal if necessary.

"Will a standard or commercial magnum magazine box fit this action?"

Possibly but you need to check it. The box is 3.480" and made from folded sheet metal similar to the boxes used here in the U.S. If a box is found, it can be modified by using a block at the rear of the box for changing the length internally. The follower and 'W'-spring are standard for the -'06 length Mausers.

The actions screws are metric, M6 x 1, so you will need to get these or let the buyer know.

The good news is that the barrel tenon is threaded exactly like the original M98 Mauser. The threads are 1.1" x 12 TPI with the tenon length being the same as the M98. In essence, standard Mauser barrels will fit but you still need to get the barrel headspaced.

The value is going to take a hit just because of what you don't have and the fact that parts are hard to come by. This was not a terribly popular design when it was imported so again, the value is subdued. It was manufactured to be less expensive so the value was lower from the start. Honestly, I think you're going to have a real hard time selling this 'as is' unless some collector has parts.

Best.