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1865 Springfield
ejh2117
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Any idea what a 1865 Springfield is worth? I'm interested in selling it and I'm uncertain what its worth. Its in reasonably good condition, has two bands, a trap door for cartridges, a ram rod, leather sling. The trigger has a very weak spring in it. Eveything appears to be original except for a pin missing that holds the leather strap to the forward part of the gun stock.
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I have seen them with cracked stocks go for a few hundred dollars ,to "in the white" for 4,500 bucks
Sounds like you own a Model 1865 Springfield which
was the first "Allin" conversion. The cartridge was
actually a .58 rimfire. Lockplate should be dated 1865.
Original condition is everything. You may wish to visit:
www.trapdoors.com and the trapdoor forum@ www.jouster.com
The .50/70 was introduced in the 1866 Trapdoor.
Best of luck, 101
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OK the pictures are not the sharp but here they are. Hope this helps
Flayderman "Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms" notes that MOST of these "Two-Band" Model 1865 Allin Conversion Rifles were converted late in the 19th Century by surplus arms dealers, to make them more saleable on the civilian market.
Because of the above, it would probably be best to get a hands-on appraisal from a knowledgeable/honest collector or dealer.
From your pictures-which are difficult to view-
The breachblock appears to be an 1866-not 1865.
Also the rod is not 1865 but appears to be 1866.
Some would call this a "Cadet Rifle" being a two bander
but Cadet Rifles "usually" do not have sling swivels.
Check the numbers again.
Charlie-both the Model 1865 and 1866 rifles were three banders
in original full length configuration.
Photos are not the best, but a few observations: what you are calling a ram rod is in fact the cleaning rod. No need for a ram rod on a cartridge loading rifle. The overall condition is not that good (again from the poor photos.) I agree that it is a "cadet model" as it is too short to be rifle. The rifles also have two bands so you can't go by that.
The sling alone is worth money as it appears to be the original.
Waiting for more info.............
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Charlie