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Charles Daly SxS value

jcwelch111jcwelch111 Member Posts: 29 ✭✭
edited February 2009 in Ask the Experts
Wondering if anyone could help with the value of an older (30+ yrs) Charles Daly SxS 20 ga. It is hammerless with Damascus barrels and an engraved nickel receiver. Can't find any other markings on it as of yet but it belonged to a friend of mine's grandfather and I've only seen it at a glance. Any ideas? Thanks.
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  • rdc5rdc5 Member Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ILL GIVE YOU $120 FOR IT WITHOUT PICTURES FIRST.
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It should have German proof marks on the underside of the barrels, or the flat portion of the receiver underneath the barrels. The original Daly's were imported starting in the late 19th Century, by the New York firm of Schoverling, Daly and Gates. Depending on originality and cosmetic condition it could have substantial collectors value. If you could post quality close-up photos it would help in determining value.
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  • jcwelch111jcwelch111 Member Posts: 29 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks rufe-snow. I'll see what I can do. I've already called my stepdad to check the blue book and he's given me some possibilities but can't seem to find damascus in the blue book. I'll see him today and check for myself. As far as your comment rdc5, that looks like a typo. I was asking about the value because I wanted info not because I'm so ignorant of firearms and their values that I'm willing to let someone rob me. Now if that was a typo and you meant $1200 instead of $120 then I graciously retract my previous statement. As my original post stated this firearm is owned by a really good friend of mine who inherited it from his grandfather. Don't believe he's interested in selling. Just wanted to know what he has. Thanks for the feedback.
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The name Charles Daly has been used on fire-arms for many years and they were mostly contract made. For a fire-arm dealer not a company every time they change where they are made the quality went down Yours however sounds like what is termed a Prussian MFG gun and These were HIGH Quality guns made before WW II some of these were made by H.A. Linder and command a very high price as do the Prussian built Drillings. Te shotguns were also built in Belgium during this time frame and although were very good quality they went from fairly plain to very fancy gold inlay models. Close-up in focus pictures from all angles and with the forearm off and barrels dismounted we can tell by proof marks where it was made and maybe even the time frame.
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  • jcwelch111jcwelch111 Member Posts: 29 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks Perry. I'll get some pics of this as soon as I can and post them here. I am looking at the 28th edition of Fjestad's Blue Book right now and I don't find anything under Daly's guns with damascus barrels. I'm curious now as to whether it could be an Italian Beretta or Bernardelli, Japanese Miroku, or a Spanish Garbi. Looking forward to more research and inspection of this old shotgun. My introduction to firearms came at the ripe old age of 3 and has been a passion bordering lunacy to some since that time. I am one of many I hope who have that true passion and appreciation for firearms and our 2nd Ammendment. Thanks again gentlemen.
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  • jcwelch111jcwelch111 Member Posts: 29 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Got some more info about this shotgun. I instructed my friend on removing the forearm and barrels to see if he could find any more markings. What he identified, as best I can tell over the phone, are as follows:

    Under the barrels where the forearm is are the letters RTS and directly upside down from them is the # 352 followed by a space and smaller letters EW.

    Also under the barrels where they lock into the action is the # 36.

    Stamped inside the action where the barrels lock in is Anson & Ceele arched up in the middle. Arched down underneath looks like Brevete or Orevete. In the middle of these is the # 712.

    I will be taking some pics of this tomorrow and will post as soon as I get them. Hope maybe this helps. Thanks
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Could it be Anson & Deeley This is a TYPE of locking a SXS shotgun in a boxlock action . Brevete is Europen
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  • MPMP Member Posts: 265 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you find crossed pistols hallmark on the barrels email me and I'll send you contact information for the man who is up on these.

    mjpetrov@acsalaska.net

    PS: It's LINDNER
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  • jcwelch111jcwelch111 Member Posts: 29 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks guys. I'll get a more thorough look at this weapon tomorrow and will take pics and let you know what i find. Thanks for the input.
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