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Glock 27

lwal50lwal50 Member Posts: 23 ✭✭
edited March 2009 in Ask the Experts
I have a Glock 27 .40 that I have had for about ten years. I haven't shot a box of shells through it yet. I have it for protection only and not for shooting on the range but when should I have to worry about KB. Reading on this fourm it's happens a lot with .40 Glocks but is it after shooting a bunch of loads and not cleaning or what? Thanks for your help.
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  • lwal50lwal50 Member Posts: 23 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Considering purchasing a Glock 27 for conceal carry. Like to hear from anyone including glock 27 owners concerning it's pros and cons. Thanks,
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  • lwal50lwal50 Member Posts: 23 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    New to the Forum.

    Recently bought a NIB Glock 27 that is "supposedly" a Generation 2.5!
    Never been fired....the spent casing in the box says Dec. 2006.

    Serial #: MFE 398

    Question:

    Is this a true Generation 2.5 and how does it rank with the other generations?

    I gave $500 for it. Good deal or no? [;)]
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  • lwal50lwal50 Member Posts: 23 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just bought a glock 27 40 cal and would like to know if any of you guys know how to install night sights on this pistol. I have successfully installed them on 2 kahrs.
    Also, wheres the best deal to buy them
    Thanks
    Eric

    thats'me
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  • laytonj1laytonj1 Member Posts: 97 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Avoid lead bullets/reloaded ammo and you'll be fine. Now go shoot it!

    Jim
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  • coachmbcoachmb Member Posts: 153 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What's KB
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  • laytonj1laytonj1 Member Posts: 97 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    KB = kaboom
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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It rarely happens. Its practically unheard of with factory ammo. The only KB's that I've ever read about happening were from handloaders accidentally double charging a case with powder during the loading process making a cartridge with dangerously high pressures. I've heard repeatedly from many experienced experts and gunsmiths outside of gunbroker to never use lead bullets in any gun that uses polygonal rifling because it can create leading of pressure ahead of the bullet, and other issued, but I have yet to actually see or hear of a KB occuring from it. In fact I've heard of shooters using special harder swaged lead bullets on regular basis, or even plated (not jacketed) lead bullets. So as far as I'm concerned its mainly here-say and rumor.

    But better safe than sorry, as long as your shooting factory ammo that it was designed for, and with proper cleaning and maintenance, you should have hundreds of thousands of rounds of life thru your glock. Probably need to change the recoil spring bout every 5 to 8 thousand rounds though too ;)
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  • entdocentdoc Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://frontsight.com/newsletter/html/16-prevent.html
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,477 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you have not even put a box though it, how do you know how it will perform in the event you really need it....[B)]
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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have personal experience with a Glock 37 kb...specifically a GAP pistol shooting factory loaded Winchester USA FMJ, it occurred in a Law Enforcement gun with PD provided ammo.

    Part of the theory for kbs are that Glocks have a partially unsupported chamber..if the round is over pressure then that pressure blows out the back of the casing and down through the magazine well. It was determined to be an ammo issue and the ammo company took repsonsibility for it. Several hundred rounds were found to be effected. When they were produced the bullets were compressed to far down into the casing. This caused two problems...one many of them failed to feed because the casing were flared out, and the second was that the compressed powder did not burn as designed causing an overpressure.


    Goto :http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html

    They cover it pretty well. I have pictures of this particular gun I will attempt to attach them. The .40s tend to have a higher number of kbs...but no one knows why...it could be simply because there are more .40 Glocks out there than any other Glock. Or it could be because the .40 is a higher pressure round.

    Glocks are not the only ones that have kbs.....H&Ks have them aswell as many other pistols....just seems to be attributed to Glocks
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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here are some of the pictures. Fortunately no one was seriously hurt. Both Glock and Winchester both made the situation right and were very easy to deal with.

    Glock_0021.jpg

    Glock_006.jpg

    Glockfailure6.JPG
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  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Reading on this fourm it's happens a lot with .40 Glocks but is it after shooting a bunch of loads and not cleaning or what? Despite the impression you have may have gotten from the internet, Glock "kabooms" are still relatively rare events. If they weren't, Glock would be awash in legal liability and it would have to pull every one of its guns off the market.

    There are tens of thousands of these guns out there, and people shoot Glock .40s every single day.

    Where you might get into problems is with reloads and unjacketed all-lead bullets. Extra-heavy 185 grain bullets can lead to higher pressures and also should probably be avoided. If you use 165 grain factory loads you'll be fine.

    quote:The .40s tend to have a higher number of kbs...but no one knows why...it could be simply because there are more .40 Glocks out there than any other Glock. Or it could be because the .40 is a higher pressure round.
    To be clear, .40SW is suppposed to run at a max pressure of 35,000 PSI, the same as 9mm luger.

    But if you figure that most .40 guns are built on frames and actions originally designed for 9mms (that includes the Glock), then the larger .40 will have less margin for safety. Supposedly trying to cram the longer .40 round into an action originally designed for 9mm requires a longer feed ramp, and leaves more of the case head unsupported.
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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would agree with that. I am by no means any kind of expert. I was not intending on leaving the impression that Glock .40s or any other Glock were blowing apart all over the place. I carry a Glock 21sf on the "job", I carry a Glock 19 as my off duty carry and I carried a Glock 22 for years...I love my Glocks and don't have the concern that a kb may happen. Perhaps I was not diligent enough in my response. Any gun...any... has the potential of "exploding" in your hand...after all you are taking gun powder under pressure..igniting it and hoping it propels a piece of lead/copper down a constricted pipe...there are no guarantees that the projectile will go the direction you want it too...anyways...I would hardly let that affect your use of a Glock 27 as personal defense...but as previously stated you should shoot that thing once and a while and make sure it works....and make sure you are good at making it work ;)
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