In order to participate in the GunBroker Member forums, you must be logged in with your GunBroker.com account. Click the sign-in button at the top right of the forums page to get connected.
Options
WWII Model 1911
Snigley
Member Posts: 134 ✭✭
Guys, I've wanted a WWII Model 1911 for a long time and I've finally decided to pick one up. Since I really don't know a lot about these, I've been talking to some recommended dealers to decide what to get. They seem to have some mixed opinions that I'd like some assistance on. First is whether guns made by different manufacturers really should command a big price differential for an equivalent conditioned firearm? Second is what's more desirable to the collecting community, a well documented history, or manufacturer on a similarly priced piece? I'd like to keep this under $3300 and I'd appreciate hearing what you guys think.
Comments
http://coolgunsite.com/pistols/colt production.htm
For $ 3,300.00 you should have a very good chance a picking up a pistol in good condition, depending upon the manufacturer.
You can look at completed auctions on the auction side to get an idea, but the following may help. Please understand that there is a wide ranges of pricing depending upon condition and manufacturer.
The highest value, other than a Singer which can run to the mid 5 figures if you can find one, will be the Union Switch and Signal.
The Ithaca is usually second in value, followed by the Remington Rand and the Colt. Colt values at least around here are typically lower due to the number made, but there is a value in the Colt name which has an influence on price.
From my experience, you would be able to get a US&S in shootable condition for $ 3300.00 or an Ithaca in pretty good condition. A Colt or Remington Rand should be able to be found for under $ 2,000.00 in fairly good shape.
This is a market, again from my experience, that can be all over the place, and others may have had different experiences with pricing.
I have one of each of the manufactures listed above, all of which were purchased within the last 5 years. The WW2 Colt was purchased for $ 1,200.00 IIRC, the Remington Rand for around $1,500.00, the Ithaca for around $ 1,800.00 and the US&S for $ 2,500.00.
The Ithaca is in in fairly good condition, the Colt and Remington Rand in good condition, and the US&S is OK, but would be called a collectable shooter at best.
WW2 Ithaca 1911A1
WW2 Colt 1911A1
WW2 Remington Rand 1911A1
WW2 Union Switch and Signal 1911A1
Hope this helps. Please take it only as a guide and not as anything coming from an actual expert.
Good luck and enjoy. Once you get your WW2, you will have to get one made for the Great War as well.
Brad Steele
The important things are originality & condition. As the condition approaches 100%, selling price increases exponentially. While there's nothing wrong with an arsenal rebuilt gun, they sell for quite a bit less than an original gun. With corrosive ammo in use during WW2, a nice looking guns could still have a pitted bore; be sure to see (or ask about) bore condition before you buy.
I have never dealt with this seller: fubarsir , but he has consistently outstanding 1911A1's. His photos are excellent, & his descriptions are complete & accurate. You want to learn as much as you can before you bid on any gun, as there is a steep learning curve, & you don't want to get burned.
Neal