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98 Mauser Safety Hard to Engage

bvshooterbvshooter Member Posts: 136 ✭✭
edited July 2019 in Ask the Experts
I recently acquired a custom 257 Roberts , Mauser Mod 98 action with a Buehler safety. The safety works but it is quite difficult to engage. I am wondering if there is a way to smooth it out a bit ?

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    charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,579 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes take it apart. Clean/de-grease. Sharpie the surfaces. Put it back together, operate several times. Take it back apart, inspect. Now the interesting part, figuring out the corrective action, which could be stoning the surface(s), altering the engagement with a file, adding metal because Bubba already fixed it once.

    added This might help. A clean room with a not carpet floor. Large cardboard box with plastic over the top and small holes in the sides for you hands. Learning the feel of a spring loaded ball detent is an acquired skill.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35D9Af1jV3E
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    bvshooterbvshooter Member Posts: 136 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks I was considering taking it apart as long as springs and ball bearings don't fly everywhere LOLquote:Originally posted by charliemeyer007
    Yes take it apart. Clean/de-grease. Sharpie the surfaces. Put it back together, operate several times. Take it back apart, inspect. Now the interesting part, figuring out the corrective action, which could be stoning the surface(s), altering the engagement with a file, adding metal because Bubba already fixed it once.
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    rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Should be a screw, that secures safety lever on it's shaft. See what happens when you loosen the screw slightly. Also you could take the Buehler safety apart. Clean to see, if it has any affect on function. Than lube the internal camming surfaces, with high quality grease or graphite. If your located in the Northern latitudes.
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    richardaricharda Member Posts: 405 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Instructions for fitting the safety presume that the upper front edge of the cocking piece will always have to be cut back slightly to allow it to properly engage - see if this has been done.
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    bvshooterbvshooter Member Posts: 136 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for that I noticed the screw Will tryquote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
    Should be a screw, that secures safety lever on it's shaft. See what happens when you loosen the screw slightly. Also you could take the Buehler safety apart. Clean to see, if it has any affect on function. Than lube the internal camming surfaces, with high quality grease or graphite. If your located in the Northern latitudes.
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    bvshooterbvshooter Member Posts: 136 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanksquote:Originally posted by charliemeyer007
    Yes take it apart. Clean/de-grease. Sharpie the surfaces. Put it back together, operate several times. Take it back apart, inspect. Now the interesting part, figuring out the corrective action, which could be stoning the surface(s), altering the engagement with a file, adding metal because Bubba already fixed it once.

    added This might help. A clean room with a not carpet floor. Large cardboard box with plastic over the top and small holes in the sides for you hands. Learning the feel of a spring loaded ball detent is an acquired skill.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35D9Af1jV3E
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    HangfireHangfire Member Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If it is, in fact, a Buehler low-swing, Timney now makes the same design.. Click the Instruction tab to download a .PDF file..This should identify some areas to check..

    https://www.timneytriggers.com/shop/timney-mauser-safety-low-profile.aspx

    If it's not a Buehler style, you'll need to just check for points of interference-and hope that the original "installer" didn't grind anything to death..[xx(]
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    bvshooterbvshooter Member Posts: 136 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank youquote:Originally posted by Hangfire
    If it is, in fact, a Buehler low-swing, Timney now makes the same design.. Click the Instruction tab to download a .PDF file..This should identify some areas to check..

    https://www.timneytriggers.com/shop/timney-mauser-safety-low-profile.aspx

    If it's not a Buehler style, you'll need to just check for points of interference-and hope that the original "installer" didn't grind anything to death..[xx(]
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    bvshooterbvshooter Member Posts: 136 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is good infoquote:Originally posted by Hangfire
    If it is, in fact, a Buehler low-swing, Timney now makes the same design.. Click the Instruction tab to download a .PDF file..This should identify some areas to check..

    https://www.timneytriggers.com/shop/timney-mauser-safety-low-profile.aspx

    If it's not a Buehler style, you'll need to just check for points of interference-and hope that the original "installer" didn't grind anything to death..[xx(]
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    jaegermisterjaegermister Member Posts: 692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Keep this in mind , in order for a mauser safety original wing or modified to engage, it must engage the notch in the cocking piece of the bolt and this is accomplished by the cocking piece brought back far enough by the trigger sear assy.
    Simply this means if you have a adjustable trigger or any orignal trigger issue going on
    you will experience this problem. Try grabbing the cocking piece with soft pliers,
    as not to scratch it and pull back and see if safety smoothly engages, if so
    work in that direction or repair.
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    bvshooterbvshooter Member Posts: 136 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is a Jaeger trigger. Will try what you said. Thank youquote:Originally posted by jaegermister
    Keep this in mind , in order for a mauser safety original wing or modified to engage, it must engage the cocking piece of the bolt and the cocking piece is brought back far
    enough by the trigger sear assy.
    Simply this means if you have a adjustable trigger or any trigger issue going on
    you will experience this problem. Try grabbing the cocking piece with soft pliers,
    as not to scratch it and pull back and see if safety smoothly engages, if so
    work in that direction or repair.
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    bvshooterbvshooter Member Posts: 136 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have exactly what you have Mauser 98 257 Roberts Buehler safety, Jaeger trigger. I held my breath after taking it all apart and used a dremmel tool to change the angle a bit and it works like a dream. Good luck with it
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    babunbabun Member Posts: 11,054 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Keep this in mind , in order for a mauser safety original wing or modified to engage, it must engage the notch in the cocking piece of the bolt and this is accomplished by the cocking piece brought back far enough by the trigger sear assy.
    Simply this means if you have a adjustable trigger or any orignal trigger issue going on
    you will experience this problem. Try grabbing the cocking piece with soft pliers,
    as not to scratch it and pull back and see if safety smoothly engages, if so
    work in that direction or repair.

    THIS^^^^^^^
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    bvshooterbvshooter Member Posts: 136 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks very much
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