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M-14

beantolebeantole Member Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2001 in Ask the Experts
OK, I'm kinda slow. I know what a M1 is and also a M1A carbine. In basic training I carried an M-14. Heavy gun, I hated it.Is this a smaller clone of the M1 or what?I've always been curious.
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  • beantolebeantole Member Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have an m-14 with no manufacture markings on it. The barrel is marked U.S. just forward of the receiver and there is a serial number on the left side of the reciever below the rear site and the same number appears on the receiver on the outside of the mag well. I cannot find any other markings. It's in a gi issue stock with cartouches on it. Is anyone familier with this rifle, any guess on manufacture. Thanks.
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  • beantolebeantole Member Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ca anybody tell me when the M-14 was made and how soon after was the M1A1 made?
    Thanks for your help
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  • awoldawold Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    M1A carbine? Did you mean M1 carbine? But to answer your question, to the best of my knowledge, the M1A is the same thing as the M-14. Springfield armory produces them as a civilian version ranging from the base model all the way to high quality, match grade. They also do make a 'scout' version that has a slightly shorter barrel but my guess is that it wouldn't be that much lighter.
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  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    M1A is a trademarked name for the semiautomatic version of the GI M14.No connector or FS parts and takedown is a hair different because of that.Both fire 7.62X51 ammo via magazines
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  • nmyers@home.comnmyers@home.com Member Posts: 205 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Are you sure that you had an M-14 in basic? They were only used in the early '60s. The M-14 uses a detachable 20 round mag. They are a shorter and much lighter version of the M1, which I think is brutal to carry and fire extensively. Even a weakling like me had no complaints about the weight of the M-14.Neal
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  • NOTPARSNOTPARS Member Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the summer of 1975 I was between my sophomore and junior years in college. During that summer I attended the Marine Corps PLC course at Camp Upshure in Virginia (not far from Quantico). We carried nothing but M-14's. Big, heavy, we marched, drilled, and fired these things exclusively. But I will say I grew to love this rifle. As best as I can tell, except for not being selective fire capable, Springfield's M1A is the same as an M14. When I had the chance this summer to buy a new .308, I bought an Armalite AR10-A2. It shoots great right out of the box. But, it weighs between 9.4 and 9.8 pounds depending on what literature you read. The M1A is in the same range. I don't know if they are equivalent in accuracy, but I sure wouldn't ming having a Springfield M1A...too...
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  • luger01luger01 Member Posts: 230 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Beantole-M1 garand. 9-10#, Uses an 8 round enbloc clip. .30-06 ammo (some in .308 and a few in .270 - both other calibers are not original).M1 Carbine. 5-6#, Uses a 15 or 30 round mag. .30 Carbine ammo. Also there was the M2 Carbine and M1A1 Carbine (folding stock model by Inland).M14. 9-10#, Uese a 20 round mag. .308 (or 7.62x51 NATO) ammo. Full auto rifle that was found to be too hard to control on full auto.M1A. Semi auto version of the M14 by Springfield. Also Norinco made some of these rifles. Used mostly for NRA High Power competitions, but has been usurped by the AR-15 with long heavy bullets and 1x7 or 1x9 twist barrels. Springfield began making a "carbine" model of this rifle a few years back. Still the same heavy rifle, but with a shorter barrel and LOTS more muzzle flash.Hope this helps.
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