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i need a 454 reloading book,,can u help?

sparkspark Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
edited October 2001 in Ask the Experts
I have a 454 taurus raging bull and i'm looking to reload with 250gr hornady xtp's. I need help on the type of powder and how much. can't find any reloading books yet.
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  • rick_renorick_reno Member Posts: 186 ✭
    edited November -1
    The Hornady reloading manual has the load data you're looking for on that 250 gr. XTP bullet. Powders they list are 2400, aa#9, H4227, MP5744, H110 and W296. I've have good results in my Freedom Arms 454's using H110. Don't know what works best in the gun you have.
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Freedom Arms LOADING DATA Page: Updated 11/13/98 LOADING RECOMMENDATIONSFOR REVOLVERS MANUFACURED BY FREEDOM ARMS CHAMBEREDFOR 454 CASULL ONLY!WARNING:THIS RELOADING INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS A SUPPLEMENT TO ASSIST PROFICIENT HANDLOADERS IN FINDING SOME SUITABLE LOADS FOR THEIR NEEDS. THERE ARE MANY GOOD HANDBOOKS AVAILABLE FOR THE BEGINNING HANDLOADERS. IT IS SUGGESTED THAT SOMEONE STARTING OUT, OBTAIN AND STUDY ONE OF THESE MANUALS. MOST FIREARMS DEALERS CAN PROVIDE THE MANUALS AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT TO ASSIST THE BEGINNING HANDLOADERS. PLEASE PROCEED WITH CAUTION. MAKE THE SHOOTING SPORTS SAFE AND ENJOYABLE FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS FASCINATING AND EXCITING SPORT.DUE TO THE INABILITY OF FREEDOM ARMS TO CONTROL RELOADING PROCEDURES, USE THE RECOMMENDATIONS ONLY IN FIREARMS THAT ARE IN GOOD, AND SAFE MECHANICAL CONDITION. THE INDIVIDUAL ASSUMES THE RISK OF SAFE LOADING PRACTICES. FAILURE TO DO SO MAY RESULT IN SERIOUS PERSONAL INJURY AND/OR DEATH TO THE INDIVIDUAL OR BYSTANDERS. FREEDOM ARMS ACCEPTS NO LIABILITY FOR THE USE OF THIS DATA.PRESSURE DATA WAS DEVELOPED AND SUBMITTED BY THE BALLISTICS LABS OF THE ACCURATE ARMS COMPANY INC., HODGDON POWDER COMPANY, AND HORNADAY MANUFACTURING COMPANY.BALLISTICS' COMPARISON CHART. FOR REFERENCE ONLY! MUZZLE MUZZLE MID RANGECALIBER BULLET SPECS. VELOCITY ENERGY 100 YD'S. TRAJECTORY357 MAGNUM 158 JHP 1235 F.P.S. 535 FT-LBS. 3.5"44 MAGNUM 240 JHP 1180 F.P.S. 741 FT-LBS. 3.7"45 LONG COLT 255LRN 860 F.P.S. 420 FT-LBS. 6.1"454 CASULL 240 JHP 1875 F.P.S. 1884 FT-LBS. 1.3"LOADING RECOMMENDATIONSFOR REVOLVERS MANUFACURED BY FREEDOM ARMS CHAMBERED FOR 454 CASULL ONLY!ALL VELOCITIES ARE FOR : 7.5" PRESSURE BARREL.~BULLET DIAMETERS ARE : .451 / .452PRIMER SIZE : SMALL RIFLE REM. # 7 1/2 CASE TRIM LENGTH : 1.380"MAXIMUM CASE LENGTH : 1.385"MAXIMUM O.A.L. LENGTH: 1.765"~Note:Data work up done in a Standard Receiver Pressure Barrel unless otherwise noted. Revolver velocities will be different dependingon barrel length. A good rule of thumb to go by is: Expect a 50 to 75 f.p.s velocitydifference, per barrel length.Example: A 6" barrel would be approximately 50 to 75 f.p.s. slower than listed below. A 10" barrel would be approximately 50 to 75 f.p.s. faster than listed below. STARTING LOADS MAXIMUM RECOMMENDED LOADS Wt. IN Muzzle WT.IN MUZZLEBullet Powder Grains Velocity C.U.P. GRAINS VELOCITY C.U.P.FREEDOM ARMSFA240JHP H4227 29.0 1421 33,800 34.0 1815 41,400FA240JHP H110 36.0 1889 44,700 39.0 2090 54,100+FA240JHP H110 36.0 1889 44,700FA240JHP HS7 19.0 1352 38,400 25.5 1746 50,100FA240JHP HS6 17.0 1277 34,600 21.5 1641 44,600FA240JHP HP38 9.0 852 26,600 13.5 1421 38,400FA240JHP W296 36.0 1875 45,200 38.0 2004 53,400FA240JHP W571 19.0 1395 38,800 25.5 1740 50,600FA240JHP W540 17.0 1274 34,600 21.5 1629 44,200FA240JHP W231 9.0 844 25,200 13.5 1399 37,600FA240JHP 2400 26.0 1639 38,000 30.0 1886 53,700FA240JHP BLUE DOT 21.0 1588 37,400 25.0 1896 55,100FA240JHP UNIQUE 14.0 1367 33,900 16.5 1580 49,700FA240JHP BULLSEYE 7.0 842 15,700 11.0 1334 32,300FA240JHP A.A. NO. 9 23.5 1439 21,500 +33.8 1875 56,800FA240JHP A.A. 1680 34.0 1349 17,100 38.0 1769 46,500 FA240JHP N350 13.0 1280 25,000 17.2 1564 48,660FA240JHP N110 27.0 1655 27,000 31.0 1877 48,040 STARTING LOADS MAXIMUM RECOMMENDED LOADS Wt. IN Muzzle WT.IN MUZZLEBullet Powder Grains Velocity C.U.P. GRAINS VELOCITY C.U.P.FREEDOM ARMSFA260JFP H4227 28.0 1309 34,000 33.0 1759 46,000FA260JFP H110 34.0 1790 44,600 37.0 2005 53,800+FA260JFP H110 35.0 1825 FA260JFP HS7 17.0 1228 36,000 24.0 1701 51,700FA260JFP HS6 16.0 1181 33,800 20.5 1562 44,200FA260JFP HP38 8.5 811 27,700 12.5 1248 36,600FA260JFP W296 34.0 1789 44,400 37.0 1977 53,100FA260JFP W571 17.0 1234 36,000 24.0 1689 51,400FA260JFP W540 16.0 1188 34,000 20.0 1522 43,400FA260JFP W231 8.5 815 27,400 12.5 1244 36,700FA260JFP 2400 25.0 1538 35,000 29.0 1780 51,800FA260JFP BLUE DOT 18.0 1429 38,800 22.0 1704 53,700FA260JFP UNIQUE 12.0 1220 33,600 15.0 1452 46,600FA260JFP BULLSEYE 7.0 829 16,100 11.0 1302 34,100FA260JFP A.A NO. 9 22.5 1433 25,000 +32.0 1800 57,800FA260JFP A.A 1680 34.0 1376 18,600 38.5 1780 50,800FA260JFP N110 26.0 1575 25,300 30.4 1816 48,820FA300JFP H4227 27.0 1494 41,400 30.0 1634 53,700FA300JFP H110 28.5 1589 44,400 31.5 1780 55,000+FA300JFP H110 31.0 1625FA300JFP HS7 16.0 1111 33,400 22.0 1501 50,200FA300JFP HS6 15.0 1084 31,100 19.0 1450 46,200FA300JFP HP38 8.5 820 32,000 11.5 1076 43,200FA300JFP W296 28.0 1537 41,000 31.0 1750 54,800FA300JFP W571 16.0 1107 33,000 22.0 1494 50,700FA300JFP W540 15.0 1100 32,600 19.0 1440 46,000FA300JFP W231 8.5 824 31,800 11.5 1062 42,400FA300JFP 2400 24.0 1461 42,000 27.0 1656 55,000FA300JFP BLUE DOT 16.0 1240 39,100 19.0 1534 54,000FA300JFP UNIQUE 10.0 1049 30,600 14.0 1275 38,600FA300JFP BULLSEYE 6.5 804 20,100 9.5 1026 33,400FA300JFP A.A. NO. 9 20.0 1177 17,100 +27.5 1625 51,900FA300JFP A.A. 1680 31.1 1346 27,300 34.5 1622 54,500FA300JFP N110 24.0 1505 34,500 26.6 1634 49,380FA300JFP N120 27.0 1290 29,300 31.0 1491 43,760+ Factory Equivalent loads. Testing done in 7 1/2" Revolver & 7 1/2" Pressure barrel where indicated.TECHNICAL TIPS FOR RELOADING THE 454 CASULLTIP #1:Magnum primers are recommended for reloading for the 454 Casull.TM Magnum primers perform more reliably at temperatures below zero degrees F.. Magnum primers will most often give more uniform velocities in magnum pistol loads using slow powders, and heavy bullets. More importantly the heavier construction of the primer cup prevents metal flow back, and provides a more positive ignition. Remember to always seat the primer below the case head to prevent recoil from firing the cartridge while not aligned with the barrel.TIP #2: An important SAFETY FACT to remember: When loading slow burning ball powders in reduced loads, NEVER load cases below 90% of capacity. Powders like H110 or W296 are prime examples of this condition. The reduced loads are harder to ignite by the primer, and sometimes NEVER ignite at all. This creates a DANGEROUS condition. What happens next, is that after the gun is fired and no report is heard, the primer pushes the bullet part way into the barrel. Another round is rotated into position after the first round. When the firearm is fired again with the barrel obstructed by the first round's bullet, damage to the firearm and injury to the user generally results.TIP #3: Reloading dies? The use of dies other than specified for the 454 CASULL IS NOT RECOMMENDED! Reloading dies manufactured for the 454 CASULL have different internal dimensions than 45 Long Colt dies. The two main differences are: 1.> The crimp die is different than the standard crimp die in a way that allows a tapered roll crimp to retain the heavier bullets at the higher velocities. 2.> The sizing die is smaller in diameter to help in the retention of the heavier bullets. Also the longer length allows fulllength sizing of the longer 454 case.NOTE: ALWAYS DO THE BULLET SEATING AND CRIMPING IN TWO STEPS. THIS REDUCES THE CHANCE OF THE CASE SIDE WALLS COLLAPSING WHEN APPLYING THE HEAVY CRIMPSTIP #4: AFTER REFERRING TO YOUR FAVORITE RELOADING MANUAL.An important fact to remember while loading above 1400 F.P.S..The construction of the bullet is very important. The intent of the final loaded round is also important, and needs to be considered also. Most commercially made pistol bullets available today are designed for expansion at velocities below 1400 F.P.S. Using bullets above this velocity results in poor accuracy, because the bullets can not withstand the higher pressures generated at these higher velocities. The deformation of the bullets base when fired results in poor accuracy. The higher velocities also cause bullet jacket separation and bullet weight loss, during uncontrolled expansion. When the pressure is high enough the jacket could separate from the bullet in the cylinder, or in flight.
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