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Quick detachable scopes../

Colt SuperColt Super Member Posts: 31,007
edited February 2009 in Ask the Experts
I'm not even sure that I'm using the proper term.

What I'm thinking is:

Several different optical devices - night, holo, low-power, high power - mounted using the same type system, zeroing them, and then being able to switch scopes on the rifle without re-zeroing.

Is there such a thing ??

My education continues.

Thank you.

Doug

Comments

  • rsnyder55rsnyder55 Member Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you are talking about removing a scope and reattaching the scope without having to resight it in, HK makes them for their semi autos. If you are talking using the same mount with multiple devices then I'm not sure.
  • PA ShootistPA Shootist Member Posts: 694 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In my experience, you can come pretty close, but not exact, I am sure due to necessary tolerances in manufacture and/or fit, even one thousandth of clearance or tolerance can multiply to being off measurably at a distance.
  • ern98ern98 Member Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Various militaries and armorment companies have worked toward one or another quick detact system over the years. Some have worked better then others and it really depends on what accuracy is required. Minute of human at 100yds, yes, minute of small varmint at 600yds probably not. Also, there is no universal system as the optics still have to be sighted in for each individual rifle and then kept safe and seperate. I've worked with the HK claw mount and the Russian side mount systems and IMO a well set up, straight and square, weaver style base and ring system can come close to being as good. The key is having the attaching system be ture between the scope and rifle so as there is no torquing or tweeking as it is attached and tightened.
  • TWalkerTWalker Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Basch & Lomb made scopes in the 50's-60's without adjustments called the BALFOR and BALVAR. Some were fixed power and some were variables. You sighted in the scope by using the adjustments in the base. You could then take off the scope and rings leaving the base on the gun and use it on another gun with the same type bases. When the scope was returned to any of the guns, it was still sighted in since the adjustments were in the bases and not in the scope. I don't know of any scope/base combos made today that have this feature. However, you can still buy the B&L scopes and bases on the auction sites.
  • TWalkerTWalker Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Another system that allows the use of different sighting devices on the same gun is the Weaver Base used with Quick Release Rings. As an example, on one of my rifles I have a scout style forward mounted base. I sometimes use a Red-Dot sight on it. At other times I use a long eye relief Leupold scout scope. I never remove the base, only the sighting device. I can re-attach it later on and the point of impact is usually pretty close.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Doug Wilson,

    That is the intent of the design for the 1913 Picatinny rail mounting system:

    "The Picatinny rail or MIL-STD-1913 rail or STANAG 2324 rail is a bracket used on some firearms in order to provide a standardized mounting platform.

    The rail was originally for scopes. However, once established, the use of the system was expanded to other accessories, such as tactical lights, night vision devices, laser sighting modules, reflex sights, fore grips, bipods, and bayonets. Because they were originally designed and used for telescopic sights, the rails were typically found only on the receivers of larger caliber rifles. But their use has extended to the point that today the combination of Picatinny rails and accessories are displacing the original iron sights in the design of many firearms, and they can now often be found on the undersides of frames and even on grips."

    This is the link for the drawings and specifications:

    http://www.biggerhammer.net/picatinny/

    Remington also has what it calls the M.A.R.S. (Modular Accessories Rail System) that it sells separately or come with some of its LE and Military kits.

    One of the original ideas was made by Mauser as a Claw Mount system. This allowed for both a scope or peep sights to be used with the same bases. Then Griffin & Howe came up with the side mount scope mount rail.

    Best.
  • carbine100carbine100 Member Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hsve had great luck with leupold quick release mounts and rings,12 tmes off and on with shots and travel between and still on the mark.
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