BERT

cheerokee1

saw a winchester 32 rimfire octagon barrel and striped receiver only no markings on tang. barrel had a 2 line address and 32 rimfire and the winchester proof mark on it.it did have a front sight and a rear sight which looked like a buck horn sight barrel did have rifling let but was pretty dark and looked pitted it measured 26" long not sure if it was a high wall or low wall i dont know alot about these rifles he wanted a 100.00 for it mabe i should have bought it????barrel had no pits on out side but mostly in petina the receiver did have 1 pitted spot not real bad had no camera with me..Thanks

cheerokee1

well my pawinlaw tells me i am the proud owner of the lowall? highwall 32 rimfire barrel and striped receiver he picked it up today i am 250 miles from him so soon as i get it ill post pic for a price check and to find out which it is..Thanks

cheerokee1

hey bert,,i may be able to buy the single shot winchester barrel and striped receiver tomorrow why is there no markings on the receiver part that is there? barrel is 32 rimfire..Thanks

cheerokee1

To continue on with the subject of the model 67 Winchester, I'm still interested in learning to hear from you as to what other features it might have that would identify a first year production rifle aside from the finger groove stock.

When I made note in the other thread about Madis' The Winchester Handbook it was in realtion to a good Winchester book that covers a lot of different Winchesters, and not any one particular book that covered just a small portion of models like the single shot variety. So, here again, if there is a Winchester reference book available to the public that covers as many models with the detail that Madis' The Winchester Handbook offers, then I'd really like for you to share this with those of us in the market for such a publication.

Bert, books like Madis' The Winchester Handbook is a superb publication, but it seems like you do not want to recognize this piece of work as being a fine source for most all Winchester models ever produced, that's fine by me. I might add that I have a superb collection of reference books, but sadly they are most all packed away and have been for a long time now which is why I asked you questions about the 67. Also, most people do not own a firearm library, and this is where Madis' has made such a big hit with the public in that he has two books that the typical Winchester fan can afford that answers most any question they might have about any Winchester. I'm still on the lookout for any comparable publication.

cheerokee1

As the topic was locked, could you please see my final comments on this thread and help me out? Thanks!

http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=449202

cheerokee1

You are the man, Bert, but my Winchester dom booklet says that a model 95 with a serial number of 78XXX was manufactured in 1915. It also states that 102,150 were made that year. Probably most of them went to Russia. Another 203,177 were manufactured in 1916. 293,818 of the production from these two years went to Czarist Russia. My 95 in 30-06 cal. is #419,XXX, book says 1927, is this correct? Eddie

cheerokee1

BERT I NEED YOUR HELP...... I NEED INFO ON WERE I CAN GET WINCHESTER MODEL 20 410 GA.PARTS. I NEED A FOREND STOCK AND A FIRING PIN. I TRIED NUMRICH, JACK FIRST, AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS I TRIED POST ON GUNBROKER WANT FORUM WITH NO LUCK. IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR OVER 1 YEAR WITH NO LUCK. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFO. THANKS

cheerokee1

Winchester built model 64 rifles and carbines, do you know how many of the carbines where manufactured? At one time my father had both a rifel and a carbine, both in 30-30. The rifle was the higher grade gun with checkering and sling swivels, the carbine was a standard, non checkered model with a 20" barrel. I've always been told that the carbines where pretty rare, I know I've not ran into many of them. Thanks for your help and knowledge.
W.D.

cheerokee1

I have 3 ???.Did the 1890 22 short come with a Lyman Tang Sight or was that a later add on??When was the last year of the curved metel butt plate on 1894??On the same gun if the barrel was cut from a rifle to 18 1/2 carbine size does that effect the value??
Thanks in advance Rick

cheerokee1

Hi Bert. I came across an 1892 today. Takedown model with a round barrel. Tang sight. Serial # 488388. It's original finish is all gone and it has a nice patina. Would you have any info on his rifle and its approximate value? Most I see have an octagon barrel.

Thank you

Mark

Bert H.

By now, you must have come to the realization you are looking for the proverbial needle in the haystack.

Winchester manufactured the Model 20 for just a scant 6-year period of time (1919 - 1924), with a total production of just 23,616 guns, many of which were sold overseas (Australia). In the many years that I have been collecting, handling, and looking at Winchester firearms, I have seen exactly TWO of them[:0]. To the best of my knowledge, there is unfortunately no available parts source for the Model 20. If you can find a complete gun, you might seriously consider buying it, then have the parts copied & and reproduced.

cheerokee1

THANKS BERT... I HOPE SOMEONE READS THIS AND HAS SOME PARTS. I KNOW IT WILL BE HARD TO FIND BUT THE MODEL 20 I HAVE IS PRETTY NICE AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT BACK TOGETHER. PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE I WILL EVER SEE

Bert H.

quote:Originally posted by cheerokee1
THANKS BERT... I HOPE SOMEONE READS THIS AND HAS SOME PARTS. I KNOW IT WILL BE HARD TO FIND BUT THE MODEL 20 I HAVE IS PRETTY NICE AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT BACK TOGETHER. PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE I WILL EVER SEE


You are quite welcome. Good luck on finding the parts and rebuilding it.

taperloc

Hello cheerokee1,
You can try:
Buckingham's Guns
501 Eaton-Brazil Road
Trenton, TN. 38382
Ph 901-559-4169.

I have never had any luck making contact with him, but I have talked to people that know him personally and they say he has tons of old Winchester parts. They also say he is a royal pain in the but to deal with. I don't even know if he is still in business.
Taperloc.

Bert H.

Albert Buckingham is indeed an Eccentric, and an Eclectic old curmudgeon. I am not sure if he is still above ground or not.

taperloc

Hello again,
I just checked one of Madis's books. In reference to the Model 20, he says that, and I paraphrase, Winchester didn't go to the expense of designing a new gun, but followed the design and pattern of over a dozen other manufacturers. If this is indeed true, it may be possible to fit a forend from a different maker to your shotgun. How you accomplish this is a project on its own. I would start by looking at 410 single shot shotguns on GB and see if they look anything like your Model 20. Having never seen on, I have no suggestions. Any good gunsmith sho;d be able to make a firing pin.
Taperloc.

A message to Bert! Stop using such big words, I'm wearing out my dictionary. [:)]

Bert H.

quote:Originally posted by taperloc
A message to Bert! Stop using such big words, I'm wearing out my dictionary. [:)]



[:D][:D][:D] What ever is it that you trying to elucidate[?] Is it too abstruse for you[?] The "old" dog needs to learn a few new tricks once in awhile[;)]

tocamoha

There is a Win model 20 at the Purplewave auction in Manhattan,KS.Google the name for website.

Sage

Hey cheerokee1, Am not sure if I am supposed to post this but there is a Model 20 Winchester .410 at auction on some other inferior AA site. 2 days to go and no bids. Pictures. Item # 8951396. I know how it is trying to find old parts. Good luck

He Dog

quote:Originally posted by Bert H.

[:D][:D][:D] What ever is it that you trying to elucidate[?] Is it too abstruse for you[?] The "old" dog needs to learn a few new tricks once in awhile[;)]


Though there is much veracity in what you say Bert, Taperloc was asking you to eschew obfuscation.[}:)][:p]