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S&W Question

BUCKAWHOBUCKAWHO Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
edited February 2009 in Ask the Experts
What do the following letters / numbers......06XA2, LGGGR, BO, SF, SI, FS, CS and ZS....under "Features" on the label of a S&W revolver box mean?

I'm having a brain-fart and can't make heads or tails. [:(!]

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  • BUCKAWHOBUCKAWHO Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can anyone tell me what is meant when someone describes a S&W revolver as having a "recessed" cylinder? BT
  • BUCKAWHOBUCKAWHO Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is there any particular reason why S&W stamp their Brand Logo on both the right side of the frame or the left side under the thumb latch ? I've seen the same models stamped both ways so apparently models aren't the deciding factor. I don't think I've ever heard or read an explanation as to why this is......just curious.
  • BUCKAWHOBUCKAWHO Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I picked this up today. Trying to figure out what model it is and when it was made. The serial number is D432XXX. The barrel is 4" long. The barrel is also pinned. The cylinder does not look like it's been recessed. Any help would be welcome. Thanks.


    BTW it's a .38 special.
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  • BUCKAWHOBUCKAWHO Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I also posted this in the GD forum.

    Was at the local hardware store this past weekend and happened to come across a beautiful looking like-new S&W .44 Mag. The tag said it was a "Deer Hunter". Can't remember the model(if it even said), but it had a 8" bbl. and light wood grips. Could anybody give me any information on this? I may get a chance to go back tomorrow and look, but wanted to see if I could find any info on it first, like reviews, model, value, etc. Normally not looking to spend that much on something like that, but I currently have no S&W guns, have been wanting a .44 Mag, and this one really caught my eye.

    Jon
  • BUCKAWHOBUCKAWHO Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A freind has a S&W Model 13-1, blued, 4" barrel - I'll be kind & give it about 80% condition- can't find much to compare it to om auction list- I told him it probbaly was'nt worth more than a couple hundred, told him i'd check with the more knowedgeable here-
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  • BUCKAWHOBUCKAWHO Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually 2 questions. Where is a site that will tell me what the varation number for any given model means? Also, does the same varation number mean the same thing for all models. For example,629 is P&R, 629-1 is not. Would, say a 686 be P&R and 686-1 not be?
  • BUCKAWHOBUCKAWHO Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a 38 S&W Pistol. It is marked on the top strap:
    U.S. PROPERTY G.H.D. I need to know what the G.H.D.
    STANDS FOR..THANKS...
  • BUCKAWHOBUCKAWHO Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi there,
    I am looking at a nice S&W breaktop revolver, .38, 5 shot cylinder. I think it is a 38DA (4th?) nI am not sure serial number is 536652. trying to decide if it is collectible and what I should pay for it. it is blued and has about 90-95% of the finish bore is good everthing it tight, black hard rubber grips. any information or recomendations are appreciated. thanks, Ed.
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello a rcessed cylinder is an early design that if you look at wherer the shell goes in each chamber the there will be two different diameter holes one smaller for the cartridge and one shallow larger diameter for the rim of the case. For cost cutting measures the later cylinders were just flat across the back and you can see the rim between the gap from the back of the cylinder to the recoil shield of the frame.
  • cussedemguncussedemgun Member Posts: 985 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BUCKAWHO,

    "recessed" - Cylinder chambers where the rear portion has been counterbored to allow the entire cartrige, including the rim, to sit flush with the rear face of the cylinder. Originally used on both magnum & rim fire Hand Ejectors, the practice was discontinued in 1982 on the magnum revolvers, but is still used on rim fires.

    The above is a quote from the glossery of terms in "The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson"

    Jim
  • BUCKAWHOBUCKAWHO Member Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Aahhh, you guys sure have the answers ! Thank you ! And thusly, my model 19 is a pinned barrel, recessed cylinder, target gripped, four-inch piece from before 1982. Thanks again ! Buckawho?
  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here is the picture worth a thousand words.

    Note that the head of the cartridge doesn't "stick out". Its flush with the back of the cylinder, because an extra groove has been machined around the cylinder hold (ie the "counterbore").

    Recessed cylinder:
    Cylinder%20Recessed.JPG

    The recessed cylinder is a holdover from the days of the "balloon head" cartridges where the cartridge rim needed support for extra strength.

    Its a "cool" feature on older Smith revolvers, and some prize it, mainly because "they don't make them like that anymore". Smith stopped counterboring the cylinders many years ago to save manufacturing costs.

    While interesting, this feature doesn't make the gun function any better with modern cartridges.

    In fact, arguably, the guns WITHOUT the recessed cylinder are safer, since in those guns you can tell if the gun is loaded or not with just a glance at the rear of the cylinder. If loaded, you'll see brass, etc.

    Here is my Smith 19-5, WITHOUT recessed cylinder (though you can't really tell based on this picture!).

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