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Primers

k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
edited February 2009 in Ask the Experts
What is the big deal with primers? You drop the hammer and they go BANG. Why are Eley better than others? Any difference in function with rim or center fire?

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  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    Have been using CCI 200 Large Rifle primers, WantTo switch to Winchester LargeRifle 8 1/2 any difference in size and preformance.
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    Can somebody share their experience please? I am wanting to work up a load in 300 Win Mag to shoot in a Sendero, and am wondering if the bench rest primers are enough better to warrant the extra cost. In the past, I always grabbed CCI or whatever I had around and worked up a load. Now this wrinkle has come up and I wonder if the br primers really are better or is it just sales hype. Please share your experience. PS this is primarily for target shooting purposes.Thanks for any insight you might offer.
    1 Cross + 3 Nails= 4given
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    I mistakenly bought small rifle magnum primers instead of small pistol primers. I loaded 100 38 caliber and went out and shot them. I did not feel or see any difference between the small rifle magnum and the other bulletts loaded with regular small pistol primers.

    Am I going to get in trouble using these primers?
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    I just got a Lee Auto Prime. In the instructions, it says to not use any Federal primers. Do any of you use the Lee Auto Prime? What primers do you use? Has anyone had any trouble with Federal primers?
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    I have a good one for you.
    I have always been taught as a rule of thumb, if a primer is chrome colored
    the round is reloaded.
    If the primer is brass colored the round is a factory round.

    Now I have run into a box of Winchester Super - X in 303 Savage.
    The primers are chrome colored not brass colored.
    It seems to be in all in tense and purpose a factory box. Now I have seen other
    assumed factory loads of other calibers listed on the auction side with chrome colored primers.
    So would this possibly be factory loaded ammo?
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    What is the difference between regular primers and magnum primers and can you enterchange them safely would like any kind of help on this I can get. Thanks Bob
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    I have alot of (about 50,000) primers, from small pistol to large rifle) some are older but I have never had a single problem and alot are newer. Is it hard to ship these if I put them on here and sell them? Thanks
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    I have some federal 215 magnum primers, can I use these safely in my 270 and 243 Thanks Kumate jr
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    Can you tell me if Winchester ever used silver primers in their .356 ammo? I thought they always used brass primers.
  • BHAVINBHAVIN Member Posts: 3,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The LEE autoprime is a great tool. I have used Federal primers in mine with no issues.
  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lee at one time also reccommended against using a certain bullet makers bullets as their dies at the time were not available with the taper crimp...and any crimp on that bullet effected the accuracy slightly.

    If you can't use every ones components with it, or the mfg is not smart enough to suggest to adjust the die so it does not crimp, instead of advising against the use of a well known match grade bullet, then I say LEE is JUNK...period.
  • PearywPearyw Member Posts: 3,699
    edited November -1
    They don't like the use of Federal primers because they are more sinsitive than Winchester and CCI. As such, you stand more of a chance of them detonating when you seat them. I have loaded 1000s of Federal primers with a Lee tool without a problem
  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    I never paid attention to what primer I use. I just don't overload it with a hundred at once. Never had a problem anyhow though.
  • mrbrucemrbruce Member Posts: 3,374
    edited November -1
    I've put 1000's of Federals through mine, and I'm still typing [:)]
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the replies. I'll go ahead and use the Federal primers I've got.
  • mbsamsmbsams Member Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Now you're usin' your noodle -- ignore your tool manufacturer's instructions and go with the word of mouth stuff you pick up on a public forum - what's your address? You are the winner of today's Darwin Safety award, I want to send it to your widow.
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I use federal almost exclusively, and the lee tool hasn't given me a problem. Just don't try to jamm seat a primer and you will be fine.
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    Lee at one time also reccommended against using a certain bullet makers bullets as their dies at the time were not available with the taper crimp...and any crimp on that bullet effected the accuracy slightly.

    If you can't use every ones components with it, or the mfg is not smart enough to suggest to adjust the die so it does not crimp, instead of advising against the use of a well known match grade bullet, then I say LEE is JUNK...period.

    You are wrong. Lee makes some very good quality tools. And they're priced so the average working man can afford them.
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mbsams
    Now you're usin' your noodle -- ignore your tool manufacturer's instructions and go with the word of mouth stuff you pick up on a public forum - what's your address? You are the winner of today's Darwin Safety award, I want to send it to your widow.

    It comes down to trust. I asked those who have used the Lee Auto Prime, and they shared their first hand knowledge. I trust experienced consumers. Many times, manufacturers have deals with other companies to promote their products. mbsams, do you have any personal experience with the Lee Auto Prime, or with Federal primers?
  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by k_townman
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    Lee at one time also reccommended against using a certain bullet makers bullets as their dies at the time were not available with the taper crimp...and any crimp on that bullet effected the accuracy slightly.

    If you can't use every ones components with it, or the mfg is not smart enough to suggest to adjust the die so it does not crimp, instead of advising against the use of a well known match grade bullet, then I say LEE is JUNK...period.

    You are wrong. Lee makes some very good quality tools. And they're priced so the average working man can afford them.


    k_townman,

    You had better educate yourself into the real world. For what little extra the RCBS brand costs over the LEE. They are far superrior, and the standard of which ALL others are judged. Yes there are some that are superrior over RCBS, but RCBS makes no excuses as to why their equipment does not work with all components. Lee has done that on two occaisions, with bullets and primers, and bad mouthed the component manufacturers for shortcomings that were all LEE's to begin with. Most always those who start out with LEE always wonder what if...what if I had gone green...then once they try green realize they just wasted a bunch of money by not doing it right the first time.

    The device which is the main focus of this thread is the lone exception. A lot of guys love it as they can feel the primer seat. This device is also prone to deliver something else, especially to the unwary...it is called CTS...yes Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. Once you try the RCBS APS, you will never look back.

    Best
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