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Opinions on a colt "sporter" in 7.62

gunnutgunnut Member Posts: 724 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2001 in Ask the Experts
Looking for opinions on the colt in 7.62, and does Bushmaster make one in this cal.?Many Thanks
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had one of these many years ago, the main problem I had was finding mags that would feed. The 7.62X39 case has a lot more taper to it than does the .223, so the Colt mags dont work worth a crap in them ... in fact in looking at Colt mag stamped 7.62, I couldn't tell any difference in them from the .223 mags (other than the stamp). The only mags I found that would feed half way reliable were USA I think, they looked like an AK mag that was welded to just enough of an AR mag to fit into the mag well. Because of feed problems it found a new home ...
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  • nmyers@home.comnmyers@home.com Member Posts: 205 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe that you are asking for opinions on the AR-15 rifle in 7.62mm. Yes, Colt made a small quantity in that caliber; I don't know about Bushmaster.I really don't know why anyone would want to buy the AR-15 in 7.62, unless you were sitting on a few cases of ammo. It's not powerful enough for hunting, and not accurate enough for target work. Even the Russians gave up on it for their service rifle. If you ever want to sell it, you'll find that most folks prefer the AR-15 in .223.Neal[This message has been edited by nmyers@home.com (edited 10-29-2001).]
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  • gunnutgunnut Member Posts: 724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Neal, not sure where you got your information on the 7.62, however the 7.62 produces about 1180 foot lbs of engery at 100yrds, where as the 223 is about 900. I have taken several whitetails out to 125yrds with a 7.62X39. As far a accuracy yes it is not a 223 or 6mm br however I have a friend that has a bolt gun that has been tuned and will shoot .5 moa all day with handloads. I know the 5.56 is more popular however im thinking of getting something different
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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My opinion differs alot from the guy who had problems, I've shot a colt in 7.62, and didn't have any feed problems, though it was a rather customized gun, don't know exacts. My favorite local gunshop has a quantity of magazines in stock, 30rd USA mags if memory serves. I know that bushmaster made them in 7.62x39, and should still be available, you can always buy a .223, and just get another upper and magazines for 7.62, thats the cool thing about ar's. I know olympic also made them in 7.62.I personally think that if you want an AR thats a little more "game" orented, then you should go with a 7.62.I've also seen conversions for the .50AE and handgun calibers like the 9mm and .45. I would somewhat question their reliability and performance, but I do know that they are available.
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  • PhilPhil Member Posts: 47 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually,7.62x39mm produces about 1275 fps of muzzle energy at 100yds,and .223 Rem is about 1043.Try doing a little target shooting with your 7.62x39mm at some 300m targets,compared to .223 Rem.You can do better with a $200.00 Marlin lever-action .30-30 for 100-yd deer hunting.
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  • gunnutgunnut Member Posts: 724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    phil, Why would I want to shoot 300meters with a 7.62 ? try shooting 1000meter with a .50 barrett compared to a 223!!! and a $169 H&R handi rifle in 25-06 will out perform a marlin 30-30 at any range..point is that the 7.62 produces more engery than the 223 at 100 no matter how you caculate it, and if I were looking at a long range hunting rifle I sure wouln't choose the 223 for anything larger than a coyote
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  • gunnutgunnut Member Posts: 724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    1275 feet per second "muzzle energy" at 100yrds?well is it at the muzzle or at 100 yrds ?or is it foot pounds of engery at the muzzle?or maybe alittle of both ?
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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What bullet weight are you calculating for? You can get .223 anywhere from 45gr-75gr.
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  • PhilPhil Member Posts: 47 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't particularly care if you're hunting with a BB gun. I was attempting to make the point that you would be an idiot to pay 1000 bucks for a rifle chambered for an horrendously inaccurate round like the 7.62x39 mm,when you can buy a cheap 30-30 that will produce better ballistics.I was also quite correctly making the point that a 123 grain 7.62x39mm projectile only produces slightly more energy at any range(any range that the 7.62 can hit anything at,that is)than a 55 grain .223 Rem. projectile,which also produces vastly superior accuracy at much greater ranges.
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  • PhilPhil Member Posts: 47 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Oh,and by the way,if I had a bolt-action center-fire rifle chanbered in any caliber that wouldn't group within .5" at 100 yds.,I'd be ashamed to mention it.
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