mini 14 legal issue

dennisw

I have mini 14 180 series with a broken extractor and firing pin. I bought a 180 extractor from gun parts, and sent the gun to Ruger install and fit. Ruger says that the extracter is wrong and that they are out of 180 firing pins, extracters, and ?My delemia is I have all these parts folder flash hider many others for a (now called)pre ban, then called toy. If Ruger replaces my 1977 purchased gun then is my replaced gun endowed with the same rights as the gun that it replaced. Do I get the same serial No. Do I get a letter, do I have pre ban rights, can I use my old parts on a replacement gun? I reread Judge Colts 8-25post and have many more questions than answers HELPdennisw

gruntled

Welcome to the 180 club. I sold mine because I couldn't get a replacement stock. Gives youa real warm feeling towards Ruger when youthink that they won't provide any supportfor those stuck with these turkeys.

AntiqueDr

If Ruger replaces your gun with one that was manufactured/assembled after 9/13/94, it is a post-ban regardless of the circumstances. My advice is to hang tough. If nothing else, those parts can be made.

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JudgeColt

Here we go again. Unless it is a GB model, the Mini-14 was not and is not an "assault weapon" as defined by the law, and the parts mentioned cannot now be added to a non-GB Mini-14 without illegally manufacturing an "assault weapon." It makes no difference when a non-GB Mini-14 was made. There is no such thing as a "Pre-Ban" Mini-14 since no non-GB Mini-14 is an assault rifle. The forbidden parts cannot legally be added to a non-GB Mini-14 now, unless it had them before 9-13-94. If you had the forbidden parts on your 180-series Mini-14 before 9-13-94, you may keep them on it, but you may not now legally add them to any other non-GB Mini-14 that did not have them by 9-13-94 no matter when it was made.This Series 180 parts problem is another example that Ruger is not the great company so many claim. I think there is something else wrong with the Series 180 rifles (brittle receivers or bolts, etc.) that Ruger is not telling and it is using the weak extractor as an excuse to replace the defective rifles without doing a full recall. This stupid "assault weapons" law is set to sunset in 2004, so remember that when considering your vote in 2002 and 2004. VOTE FOR NO THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES NO MATTER HOW ATTRACTIVE. Third party votes elected Klinton in 1992 and Bush43 in 2000. DO NOT DO IT! If we can get Bush43 reelected in 2004, and give him a solid conservative majority in Congress, maybe we can get rid of this nonsense.

JudgeColt

In rereading the initial post of dennisw, I see I may not have answered his question clearly. I am not entirely sure what I am about to say is correct, but IF Ruger were to replace your 180-series receiver with one that has the same serial number (which it will not do), then I THINK the rifle with the new receiver would still be able to retain any forbidden parts that were installed before 9-13-94. Unless the forbidden parts were on the original rifle before 9-13-94, they cannot legally be installed now, new receiver or not.If Mini-14 owners want an "assault Mini," they should buy a pre-ban GB or some other true "assault weapon" and forget messing with the Ruger plinker.

kimberkid

The manufacture CAN destroy the receiver and re-stamp the serial number on a new/updated receiver for you,but they must also provide you with documentation of the occourance as well as have it on record in their books. Styer did this for 100 US Pre-Ban AUGs, that's how there came to be 100 Pre-Ban A-2 AUGs (updated identical to the USR reciever) in the USA. The whole process was to take 2 months and cost the owners $1000 each ... it ended up being a fiasco for Styer and taking over a year ... they wont do any more, however for the lucky 100 their AUG's are commanding a price tag of $6000+ each.

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TheGunDoc

(O7) Are replacement parts for grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices subject to regulation under the law? [Back]No. Parts may be replaced in grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapons and grandfathered feeding devices without violating the law. However, if the frame or a receiver for a semiautomatic assault weapon is defective, the replacement must be made by the weapon's manufacturer or importer. The replacement receiver must be parked with the same serial number as the original receiver, and the original receiver must be destroyed. However, a manufacturer or importer who is unable to mark the replacement receiver with the same serial number as the original receiver may seek a marking variance in accordance with 27 CFR 178.92. In addition, the permanent records of the manufacturer or importer should indicate that the receiver for the weapon has been replaced.