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Glock safety question

green milegreen mile Member Posts: 619 ✭✭✭
edited February 2009 in Ask the Experts
Good afternoon all, I have heard that Glock reccomends that you do not carry your gun with a round in the chamber? Is this correct? What is the reason for this? I have a 19 and 21 and have not had any problems at all with either one. If this is the case I must seriously consider trading in the Glocks for a DA/SA carry weapon (with a safety on it). Any suggestions on a DA/SA for carry if this is the case? Thanks for all of your responses.

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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    First of all I'm a LEO that carries a Glock 21SF everyday....secondly I am a Firearms Instructor and Glock Armorer(not that this makes me an expert, but I do service Glocks and maintain the Depts pistols)...and NO...let me repeat...NO...Glock does not recommend carrying chamber empty...you are perfectly safe carrying your Glock with a loaded chamber...my personal favorite off duty carry is a Glock 19.

    Your primary safety should always be your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.....

    in addition Glocks have a trigger safety and a drop safety...the firing pin in a Glock...which is a called a striker is only partially engaged...it does not pull all the way to the rear and release until the trigger bar drops...which requires the trigger to be pulled completely to the rear.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never heard that; everyone that I know who carries a Glock carries it with a round in the chamber. They say about a Glock: "The safety is
    you don't pull the trigger."

    But, that may be easier said than done. The lack of a manual safety combines with the light trigger to make training & familiarization more important for the Glock than any other auto. Stick out your index finger the slightest bit when holstering it, & you get "Glock foot".

    The New York trigger for the Glock is heavier & some folks feel it reduces the chance of an AD.

    Neal
  • Colt SuperColt Super Member Posts: 31,007
    edited November -1
    The answer is...

    1911A1.

    Doug
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey I love my Kimber..its slim and comfy to carry in an inside the pants holster...buts its only 8 rds...and my 21SF is 14 rds....do the math...while your reloading I'm returning fire...plus the cocked and locked thing.....if this guy is uncomfortable carrying a Glock...how you think he'll feel about carrying cocked and locked?
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    in reads to the NY trigger....it turns a perfectly good handgun into a brick...you won't have an AD( no such thing as an AD...you either pull the trigger or you don't....you can't accidentally pull the trigger if you keep your finger is off it until your intent is to fire) if you keep your finger off the trigger until your ready to engage a threat.
  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you read the owners manuals that came with your Glocks, nowhere in them do they recommend carrying them with an empty chamber.

    The only organization I have ever heard of that carries pistols with empty chambers is the Israeli military.

    Glocks are perfectly safe to carry with a loaded chamber.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually one slight correction! Our military, the US Army carries their Beretta's chamber empty on Post in non combat situations. The MP's are required to carry chamber empty, if they chamber a round they better be able to justify it or they are subject to discipline. This include over seas bases such as Germany.
  • rhmc24rhmc24 Member Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any gun is a danger when not handled properly or by someone unfamiliar. Argument for a 'safety' on a pistol is strongest for those situations.

    Two local cases in point: man has his Glock on the seat of his pickup with various other stuff, gets out reaching back in for his pistol amongst other stuff, drags it toward him, pulling the trigger in the process, shoots his passenger thru buttock. Second case: small child 3-4 years old, picks up pistol off bedside table and shoots sleeping father.

    Latter case was with Glock .40 cal that I had traded back in to selling dealer. I was questioned by Glock lawyer as to when, why, how, etc. & if I had any problem with the pistol. I gave the Glock a clean bill insofar as my experience was concerned.
  • abcguns2abcguns2 Member Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello :
    OK , I must add this to this post , There Is No thing as an A.D. , #1 gun safety rule ...Keep your finger off the trigger !!!!!
    and ,,, I have a NY #2 trigger in all of my GLOCKS , and I like them that way !!! I also carried a Glock as a 'duty' weapon for years and still do so !!! everyday !!!
    Thanks !!!
    d.a.stearns......a.k.a......SKEEZIX
    Gunsmith / LEO
    Athens , Tn

    P.S. all my Glocks are 'fully loaded' !!!











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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a glock 21. IMHO the Glock needs an ancillary safety. Unless the trigger is totally shielded it can have an AD. Running through heavy brush could trip trigger bar. If the branch was tough, like apple it could fire the gun. I do NOT trust trigger only safeties. One may argue about a revolver but the secondary mechanical action of the cylinder turning is a positive safety device.
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