cobra---utah

moonshine

cany any body tell me about these simi autos.are they another jennings or raven ?

http://66.165.102.6/cobra/products.html

texas gunplumber

they were previously sold under the trade name DAVIS.
THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT YOU LISTED.
sometimes firing pins etc. will interchange

Spartacus

I have one of their derringers and, except for the extractor, its very well made.
the semi's look alot like Jimenez (bought out jennings). run away!!

burpfire

hello. the patriot series are excellant guns. owned a few of them with absolutely no problems. their derrengers are also excellant. supposedly, their jennings look-a-likes are okay!! i spoke with a dealer at a show who sells them. he said out of about 50 he sold, he only had one brought back. he could have been talking out his *, or they might be okay.

texas gunplumber

COBRAS CA SERIES AND FS SERIES [and other pistols of this type] ARE FIRED WITH FIRING PIN, COMPRESSED SPRING, HELD BY THE SEAR. IF THE PISTOL CHAMBER IS LOADED, AND THE SAFETY IS ON...AND THE PISTOL DROPPED, IT CAN DISCHARGE!....As a retired pistolsmith [30+ years] I have checked out several accidental discharges, in this type pistol.
THE GUNS ARE FAIRLY SAFE, IF THE CHAMBER IS EMPTIED, PRIOR TO PUTTING AWAY...IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THESE GUNS CAN FIRE WITHOUT THE MAG IN,
AND A LIVE ROUND IN THE CHAMBER.
I should not preach to the choir.....

moonshine

thank guys I had never evan heard of the brand until my daughter brought one at the gun show. Think I'll have a talk with her.

beantownshootah

To be clear here, the Cobra company bought out the Davis machinery after Davis went belly-up.

So for practical purposes, the Cobra derringers and single-action pistols are the same as the older Davis ones.

quote:Originally posted by burpfire
hello. the patriot series are excellant guns. owned a few of them with absolutely no problems. their derrengers are also excellant. supposedly, their jennings look-a-likes are okay!! i spoke with a dealer at a show who sells them. he said out of about 50 he sold, he only had one brought back. he could have been talking out his *, or they might be okay.

Unfortunately, that statistic doesn't mean very much.

Do you expect a dealer to truthfully tell you "Yeah, these guns are crap, but I sell a lot of them because they are so cheap, so I don't care?".

Even granting that the return rate is truly low, a low return rate doesn't mean the guns are good.

In general, persons who are knowledgeable about guns avoid these low-end pistols, so in general the only ones buying them are clueless about guns, poor, or usually both. (Or worse, they're criminals looking for a "disposable" gun).

Lots of these sorts will buy a gun, stick it in a drawer in case of an emergency, and never shoot it, even once. Anyone like that would never know if the gun were good or lousy.

Many more will take it to the range, fire literally one box of ammo through it (or less) and never fire another round.

This is enough to see if the gun functions. But the biggest failing of these low end guns isn't that they won't fire. . .its that they are made of fragile parts that can't provide a long service life. The guns just won't hold up to hundreds of rounds, and in some cases, they won't even hold up to several magazines worth without something breaking or failing. Not good, but not necessarily something you'd know unless you shot it enough to find out.

My take on Cobra is that their newer design polymer "Patriot" pistols are probably OK, somewhat comparable to Kel-Tecs.

But personally, I'd stay away from the rest of their guns, including the Davis/Jennings clone type guns for reasons listed above.

As to the derringers, I'm leery of those as well. The trigger pulls are like 20 pounds, and unless I am mistaken, they have no transfer bar safety (meaning they can also go off if dropped).