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Shipping Ammo

TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
edited May 2016 in Ask the Experts
Okay I read the sticky on it. From what I get from it and what I have been told over the years,
shipping live ammo via the USPS is illegal.

Then my question is; if it is illegal then how are the big sellers on the auction side
getting away with shipping ammo via USPS?
They state they ship USPS and the shipping price they are giving is for Priority Mail.
I know because I know what UPS charges and there is no way I can charge $6 - $7 less to match their shipping price
on the same ammo via UPS.

I now understand why we do not sell as much ammo even though our price for the auction is within line with the rest.
Our shipping cost kills it because we ship within the law.
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What carrier(s) can I ship ammo through? Do you have to declare what is in the shipment? Just need some info on shipping laws governing ammunition. Also, I am not a FFL holder. How can I ship a firearm legally?
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can anyone ship ammo? Let me know of anything special that needs done.Thanks
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am an individual in Illinois and have some ammo I want to put on the auction site. What are the legalities of me selling and shipping? Thanks!
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Am I allowed to ship ammo with the U.S. Postal Service? Seems like people are doing it but it seems to conflict what the postal service says is non-mailable items.

    Thanks,
    Mike
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guys, our sticky is 7+ years old and I'm wondering if there have been new restrictions placed in these years. I have a couple of boxes of old Colt .32 long that I want to put on the auction side. I don't want to go to jail for this little amount of money.

    Thanks,
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am going to use UPS ground with ORM-D lables but I need to know of any restrictions from one individual in Louisiana to another in Illinois. Is a copy of their FOID card all I need.
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm new to the site so appologies if this is the wrong place to ask this. I'm not a dealer, I just have some ammo sitting around that I no longer have guns for. When I sell it on the auction site, are there any precautions I should take with regard to who I ship to and how?
    Thanks for the help.

    Don W.
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm looking for information on shipping ammo.
    Whats involved shipping a sealed spam can of ammo using UPS ?
    Do you have to tell them whats in the box, or just ship it and shut up?
    I called the ups store today and got the run around-evil ammo lecture.
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can ship ammo from a UPS Customer Center (not a franchised UPS store)without any problem whatsoever. The rate will be the regular "per pound" rate as all other consumer goods. Here is a bank of ORM-D Labels you can print on an Avery blank label full sheet page:

    CopyofORM-DLabels.jpg

    Here is what a package of Avery full sheet label media looks like, from Office Depot:

    AveryFullSheetLabelImage.jpg

    Just have your carton well packed and tight with labels attached, and when you go to the computer to make a shipping label at the UPS terminal, write in "consumer" when it asks what type of material is being shipped. When you get your UPS SHIPPING LABEL FINISHED, STICK IT ON YOUR PACKAGE AND TAKE IT TO THE SCALES AND SAY "SHIP IT GROUND" No other action is necessary. They'll weigh it, scan your UPS label and ask you for the money. Pay and you're done.

    Forget about FEDEX, and DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT MAILING AMMO USPS!
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    hi went to usps today about shipping ammo lady was clueless,what are the rules?
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is the most cost effective way to ship approximately 100lbs of 10mm ammo from one state to another. Fedex wants to charge me around 350$ any other ideas would be great.

    WordBorn!!
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't have an FFL. Can I ship ammo to someone that does not have an FFL ? Thanks
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been including my extra ammo in my auctions when I sell a gun that I only have one of in that caliber. This is the first time I have ever sold any of my firearms...but just too many right now.

    Shipping is a RIP-OFF!!! USPS won't take it, UPS wants it by contracted businesses only, at $40 per parcel, and Fed-Ex wants $30 per parcel.

    Any other options for shipping????....this is a joke!!!

    Thanks!!!
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently sold my last .380 to a fellow 4 states away-gun went expensively but completely legally to his local FFL. I have 300? rds. of older but unfired, in-the-box factory ammo. He wants to buy it on the cheap, which is cool with me-I have no further need.

    I live in a small Rocky Mtn. community. I called our single local UPS and FedEx offices-you'd think I wanted to ship a hundred lbs. of C4 on Air Force One. I check ups/fedex.coms. The hazardous materials pages are absurd and endless. I have to be a certified hazardous materials contract shipper with a pick-up account to even call them. Has it truly become easier to ship an arm than a small quantity of ammo?

    I see ammo for sale on this and other arms sites-often small quantities for prices in the teens by non-FFL's. What do these guys do? What's the average Joe Citizen to do other than 'inadvertantly mistate' the package contents?

    Thanks for any help.
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    hello I have 3 old boxes of remington kleenbore rifle ammo 45-70 that I want to list on gunbroker but I am unsure of how to ship the ammo to a buyer without costing a small fortune any help will be greatly appreciated I can best be contacted at gundoc2000@yahoo.com

    thanks for any help Dan
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I assume that USPS still does not take Ammo? Is that what ya'll see? Lots of people are still using them and seemingly not getting caught. Ive told some not to us them but still see ammo getting shipped through them.
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know you have to ship ammo UPS or FedEx. And you need to mark the outside of the box. How?
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like to sell .300 WSM ammo on Gunbroker.com that I don't need anymore. I have never shipped ammo before. Need advice on how to ship ammo. Anybody have any tips? Is see UPS requires special labeling, but are there HAZMAT fees? The information on shipping firearms is clear, but ammo not so.
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Friend wants me to ship some 380 ammo to Ohio how can i find out what state or legal to ship to.
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I want to ship my son-in-law some 30-06 ammo. Who will take this Postal service fed-ex or ups????
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Does anyone have any tips for me on shipping ammo out to a buyer? This will be the first time I've ever sold ammon online. REALLY appreciate the help! Thanks!
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What are rules for shipping ammo sold on Gun Broker?
    Can ammo be shipped in same box with a pistol??
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    fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,722
    edited November -1
    getting caught shipping ammo usps gets a visit by postmen in cheap suit with shortpants with badges and a 250.000 fine[:D]
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    nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    TheBrassMan,

    The USPS specifically states in several places on their website that you may NOT ship ammunition through their offices.

    I'm sure that they also specify the punishment somewhere as well...

    Best.
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    11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,588 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Problem is that US Mail travels in the cargo compartment of passenger aircraft. Which is why you are not supposed to mail ammo.

    Anyone that wants to play with it should remember- the Postal Inspection Service has the highest conviction rate of any Federal LEO.
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    TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I found out how one is doing it with such a cheap shipping cost.
    If you buy more then one item, not the same item, he does not combine shipping, but still ships in the same box.
    So if you buy one box of this ammo and one box of that ammo he charges you $8.95 for each.
    That means he charges you $17.90. That covers his UPS cost.
    Was just reading through his feedback.
    He is charging $8.95 for shipping small items via USPS Priority Mail.
    Small Flat Rate is $6.80.
    So he is also covering UPS costs by charging $2.15 more. Yes there is a cost incurred when shipping,
    but not $2.15 worth.
    Okay I shouldn't be ranting.

    I know what the fines are for shipping hazardous materials via the USPS. Have read about them
    and they do have it clearly posted in the local Post Office.
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know what companies you are referring to, but I am quite certain that NO ONE in business is shipping ammo by USPS. The law is quite clear: ammunition may not be shipped by US mail.

    What DOES happen is that the large dealers have contracts with UPS &/or FedEx (both "common carriers") to ship anything, including guns & ammo, at rates far below what anyone else pays. Their volume, & what they pay each year, gives them lots of leverage. No "Next Day Air required", no "hazmat" fees, no "rural delivery fee", no "excess weight" charge; individuals & small businesses just can't compete with that.

    Sorry, there's nothing we can do about it.

    Neal
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    BT99BT99 Member Posts: 1,043 ✭
    edited November -1
    Several months ago I ordered some ammo from one of the "big" sporting
    goods stores. They shipped it UPS part of the way then UPS dropped it
    off at the post office and the local mail man delivered it.
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    andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BT99
    Several months ago I ordered some ammo from one of the "big" sporting
    goods stores. They shipped it UPS part of the way then UPS dropped it
    off at the post office and the local mail man delivered it.

    That method would protect the passenger aircraft. It would go by common carrier truck and aircraft to the local PO. From there, by USPS mail truck to the house.
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