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unknown german shotgun.
noor ali khan
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i have a german doube barrel shotgun which goes by the name of 'SIMON & CO. SUHL WAFFEN FABRIKEN'. it's got a 30 inch barrel and has straight but, is ejectorless and box locked. it's also got these words written on the barel 'FLUSS-STAHL, KRUPP-ESSEN'. can anybody give me some info on it. I can't seem to ever find anything on stuff like this by searching on google etc. I will be gratefull if any one could show me to a website where i could get info on unknown guns etc. thanks
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Maybe not unknown but rather little known. There have been hundreds of small shops and gunmakers throughout Europe with concentrations in cities such as Suhl. Some grew to prominence while others have simply faded away.
Do us a favor and check the company name once more carefully, please. I have a note on a company with the name Simson but not Simon.
Best.
Simson was a very well known German sporting arms manufacturing company, during the early years of the 20th Century. They made many different models, in various grades. It would be best if you could post some quality photos, to help in further identification.
If on the other hand, the marking on the shotgun is Simon instead of Simson. It might be a retailer or a gunsmith who only made shotguns on a custom basis?
I have many more antique and not so antique collection of fire arms.
The instructions for posting photographs here are located at the top of the 'Experts' forum in a locked sticky. The directions are basic and you should be able to post photos with a little bit of trying after reading the host website instructions. If you run into a snag, e-mail me and I'll see what I can do but learning how to post photos will benefit you in the long run as far as getting help with your other firearms. Time is short today and for the next few weeks so my response may not be immediate as in within a few minutes.
Many of us are anticipating your pictures!
Best.
By the way, the gun is in about 80% condition.
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There are many more fine photos available through the link posted above the photos.
Value? First, it depends where you're located. The gun will be worth more in Germany than here in the US. German shotguns don't usually fetch a premium here and this gun will be no exception.
I believe the gun to have had the finish removed and I see a stock repair. Further, I expect the stock to have been cut and an ugly rubber pad added. This is the kiss of death for any collector interest as a rule.
These demerits take the gun directly into the "shooter" class. As such you're probably looking at a $450.00 gun. Perhaps a bit more with proper refinishing and a bit less if the photos have failed to convey something of note. (I assume the gun to be in good mechanical condition.)
I'd probably use the gun as my upland firearm of choice if it fits and patterns well. After all, upland game is what it was made for.
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Not an 80% gun. Only that if original in all respects.
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