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Old SHOTGUN>>>410-50 little gem

Ice-PickIce-Pick Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
edited August 2002 in Ask the Experts
this gun is missing pieces and i was wondering if anyone had heard of it and if there is a place to go check things out about it.re:order parts wat modle it is things like that thats about all the information i can read on the gun so if u know anything please let me know thx. PEACE OUT
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.comcaptkirk3@dslextreme.com Member Posts: 3,804
    edited November -1
    Ice-Pick: Sounds to me like you have a Belguim made Gun...To be sure, I'd need to know what Proof Marks are stamped under the Barrel at the Breech End... There were many of these guns made around the Turn of the 20th Century...and up into the early 1930's..The name's Little Giant, Little John, Little joker, Little Pet and Little Tom to name a few...As for parts?...It will be a rare day when you can find parts for these old Clunkers...Not to say they arn't out there somewhere...just that thet will be extemely Rare...The Gun itself in Shooting Condition is only worth a $100.00, and not worth the expense to rebuild...I wish you Well........

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • Ice-PickIce-Pick Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ok well along the left side of the barrel looking down it as if shooting it has a *P but the "P" is reverced then under the " *P "
    there is a fish like shape with the letter " L " and " i " and another " * " kinda like this.........................
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    >..........................|
    |.....
    >...........................|----|......
    >..........................|
    |.....
    >.........................|
    |....
    >........................|
    |...
    >.......................|---L----i---|..
    >.........................|----*---|....
    >...........................|----|......
    sorry for the bad pic couldn't figure out how to send an image with it but i could e-mail it to u have a better drawing that i made and saved...anyway then right down the top of the barrel down by where u break it appart says "LITTLEGEM" then on the right side it starts with a " * " then under it a big " M " then under it a symbol i best describe as an " EL " the letters are more a symbol like a backwards three and a handwriten letter L overlapping each other: tried to make u a pic on the forums but hey its tough...lol any how under that symbol is the numbers 104 and like i said if u have an e-mail address and u trust me i guess i have a small drawing of it all and i have a pic of the gun as well....but thx nun the less.....
    L8R ALL
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.comcaptkirk3@dslextreme.com Member Posts: 3,804
    edited November -1
    I think you just discribed a Paris Proof Mark...Send me a Photo via email if you wish...I have the Book of Proofs sitting here by the computer...Having the Photo is going to help a lot in being sure of just what you have here...I await your pleasure....

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.comcaptkirk3@dslextreme.com Member Posts: 3,804
    edited November -1
    What You have is a War Trophy that some ones Grand Dad brought home from one of the big Wars..The M with the asterisk is a Belguim Inspectors Mark. The EC in Gothic Scroll is a Belguim Inspectors Mark for Voluntary Smokeless Powder Testing..Not to confuse Modern Smokeless with the Early Powder they were testing in the late 1890's.
    The Hour Glass' [for no other name for the design comes to mind]...is the Final InHouse Proof Mark...The Gun was never Government Proofed with the Oval with E over LG for export...Thats what I came up with...Hope this information helps you......Best.....

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • Ice-PickIce-Pick Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK thx alot so it still is just an old relick worth a small amouunt but has sentimental values i guess as it was my grandfathers....so thx a bunch for your help and Ohhh yeah so he must have snuck it back since its not passed the government thing...lol was just curious as to how he brought it home i guess i'll have to do some searchin through the fam to see wats up...but u also stated earlier that parts for one of these guns is going to be real tough....wat exactly do u call that gun ??? so when i am asking for sertain parts i wont look as dumb about guns as iam with this one.



    Edited by - Ice-Pick on 08/14/2002 17:42:44
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  • Ice-PickIce-Pick Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    P.S. i was also wondering if u know of any place i can get the spec's of it or somtin, so i could get a trigger gurd and barrel lock piece fabricatted. We have a good shop here that should be able to doit but i have no idea exactly wat it looks like
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.comcaptkirk3@dslextreme.com Member Posts: 3,804
    edited November -1
    Parts are going to be virually impossible to locate...You'll need to go to every Gun Show you can find and chase down any and all Gunsmiths you can find who'll allow you to dig thru His Parts Box and Junk Drawer....Or take a crash Course in Gunsmithing....I wish You Luck.....

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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