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Walther P-38

chornechorne Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
edited August 2002 in Ask the Experts
I have a Walther P-38 "Zero" series, (1st production variation / serial number in the 1200's) I believe this pistol to be one of the very earliest test pistols manufactured in the series and I judge the finish to be about 75% TO 80% The weapon is fully functional / the mag and pistol are stamped identifyiing the pistol as Walther Waffenfabrik manufactured. All of the small parts that I can see are stamped "Eagle over 359". Can anyone out there help me to determine an approximate value of the pistol?

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  • chornechorne Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am looking to find a replacement grip for my AC 41 Walther P-38. The grip on it is not an original and i would like to find an original AC 41 Grip. Does anyone know where i might find one?
  • chornechorne Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This weapon is a bring-back" and has been in a drawer since 1945. It is serial #62xx and is like new-all numbers match. My question; this ac/43 is chromed with absolutely no flaking. Is it possible this chrome finish is original ?
  • chornechorne Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have an elderly friend that wants to sell a Walther P-38 with the original flap holster. It has the eagle stamp and 359 on all parts. It also has a serial number 1369 and what I'm guessing as a model number Ac41. Any info/value/ would be appreciated. One box of shells have been fired in it in the last 40 years.Thanks, Mark
  • chornechorne Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I was in the army in Germany,my CO wanted to sell me his P-38, but I could not get approval from Battalion Hqtrs. The BC said it was a dangerous weapon in that the sear was unreliable and the pistol could go full automatic. That same thing did happen to a friend and me while shooting his P-38, it went full auto and emptied the clip scaring the hell out of us. As he recalls now he says the gun had a lever which allowed it to go full auto, I disagree. I say the sear failed. Does the P-38 have a full auto selector?
  • chornechorne Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have one of these that was probably mfg. in the 60's, 9mm (ser.# 323---. The Serrated "pull back" striations on the one side of the slide are not perfect. Came this way bran new. Is this a detriment or might it make it more valuable??
  • chornechorne Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've recently been offered a supposedly unissued WW2, matching serial number Walther p-38, but I'm not sure of the price they want. No picture available, What might this item be worth ?
  • chornechorne Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey guys my friend stumbled upon his dad's old Walther P-38, and we were kinda curious about it's history and it's possible value, the serial # is 3709a byf44. Any info would be greatly apperciated.
  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Im not sure about your question? maybe some one else can answer it for you I got had on one once before.But you can buy the post war Model with Holster extra mag and cleaning kit for around $225.00 They are surprisingly very nice 9mm Pistols.



    Best!!

    Rugster
  • Der GebirgsjagerDer Gebirgsjager Member Posts: 1,673 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I certainly would not buy one of these sight-unseen. An examination of the markings on the pistol will be very important to establish its authenticity. The left side of the slide should bear a manufacturer's WW II code marking such as "ac 44" or "cyq". All of the major components should bear the same serial number, and there should be some tiny little eagles standing on numbers (these are called waffenamts-inspector acceptance marks). The frame should be all steel; most postwar pistols have aluminum frames. There are reference books available. In 100% condition these pistols can, the rarest of the rare, be worth as much as $6,000; or the most common as little as $475. In less than 100% the value descends rapidly down to about $200 for the most common in 60% condition. If you can definately establish it as a WW II pistol truly in 100% condition, and it is a late war production "cyq" (just playing the odds, here!) $475 is about right.
  • mattsmilitariamattsmilitaria Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can give you a good estimate, but would definately need much more information. Such as:

    -Maker of the gun; this will be on the left side of the slide. It should be marked with one of the following maker codes: "AC" "480", "byf", "cyq","cvq", or "svw".
    - Year of the gun- this will be below or next to the maker code. If you have a "cyq" or "cvq" it will not have a year.
    - Serial number- will be a 4 diget number with a letter suffix or letter prefix. If you have a "cyq" this will help determine the year. If you have a "cvq" you should have a letter prefix.
    - Is the gun all matching?- Serial numbers shoud be on the slide, frame, barrel, and locking block. All should match!
    - Condition- you say this is un-issued, but what is the condition, bluing, bore, grips....?
    - Magazine- does magazine match the gun?- most mags where not serialized, but they all will have a makers proof mark on it. It will be either "135", "359" "88" or be marked "jvd" or "706".
    -is the gun import marked or re-worked?- import marks are usually found under the barrel, or will have a star marking on the back of the frame near the slide.

    Find out all of this information, and I can give you an accurate estimate.

    Matt
  • chornechorne Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    choice of 3 maker codes: AC , Byf, cyq
    All matching serial numbers
    Military new(99% bluing with some storage marks, bore and grips in excellent condition)
    year is 1941-1944
    magazines have makers proofs, don't know about import marks but do have Nazi proof marks and military office acceptance codes
  • Der GebirgsjagerDer Gebirgsjager Member Posts: 1,673 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ac=Walther, byf=Mauser, cyq=Spreewerke
    Lacking further specific information, and considering that the condition has been revised a little to 99% I'll go with values of $450, $450, and $400 respectively. Other information could provide the exception, such as: A byf 42 could bring as much as $1,000 or an ac 41 or 42 $725.
  • TED GARTED GAR Member Posts: 389 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes there are new unissued, p38's in this weeks shotgun
    news for 225$
  • mattsmilitariamattsmilitaria Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ted Gar,

    Those are not P38s! Those are post war Walther P1s. They are post war police pistols and are imports. That is why they are so cheap. The military P38s where only made from 1939-1945.

    Matt
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