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KEEP Your Old Single-Stage Press

Wolf.Wolf. Member Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 2007 in Ask the Experts
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The topic was locked before I could insert my two cents worth [:D] .

So you got a nice Dillon progressive press and the old RCBS seems to be nothing more than a doorstop?

There's an important reason to keep it, because the old single stage will fill a gap that the progressive canot efficiently fill.

Bolt the single stage back down to the bench, and buy and install a decapper die in it. I don't mean a decapper/resizer die; I mean a simple decapper that does not resize the case.

Now you can decap your brass before you put it in your vibratory cleaner. This single process of decapping is not as readily done in the Dillon without messing around with your toolhead setup or having a separate toohead to handle a single function.

After you clean the decapped cases, you should get a flash hole cleaner/sizer and a primer pocket cleaner/sizer and go through all your brass and work those critical areas. You will find that sometimes you have a stuck clump of cleaning media in the case (now you know what causes at least some of those failures to fire). Sometimes a dirty primer pocket will not let the primer seat properly in the case. If you have ten percent of your reloads in the scrap box, that ups the cost of your reloads in money out of your pocket. Plus your time is worth something. If you shoot competition and reload yourself, these two critical points, primer pocket and flash hole, can really cost you if you don't pay attention to them.

Keep the single stage press to pop out the spent primers.

Comments

  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep - I have 3 of them for the same reasons.

    Also, when I want to make a few (20 or so) really precision rounds that I want to take my time with - thats when I use the single stage.
    Abort Cuomo
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,169 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I accumulated several older presses that are still in fine shape. I have enough room to keep them setup for different operations when I want to work on small batches of odd cases.
  • midnightrunpaintballermidnightrunpaintballer Member Posts: 2,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    wolf: that is excellent advice. i will do exactly that. thank you. will i need seperate decapper dies for each caliber? one for .40 one for .45 etc?
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    My Dillon 550 will more efficiently decap many rounds without messing with anything beforehand than either of my single stage presses. It just drops the decapped rounds into the case tray like always. It's almost easier than a single stage alone: pull 2 pins, replace the toolhead with the decapping head, and viola!
    I don't know how Wolf has his set up, but if he has to adjust the toolhead every time, or change his die settings around; he's probably got it set up wrong.
    Just another example of how low-tech solutions to non-existent problems get solved, sorta.
  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by midnightrunpaintballer
    wolf: that is excellent advice. i will do exactly that. thank you. will i need seperate decapper dies for each caliber? one for .40 one for .45 etc?

    It's called a "universal decapping die", and it de-caps everything from 22 Eichelberger (sp) IE the 25ACP necked down to 22cal, on up to the 460 Weatherby with the one die.

    Another good use for a "spare" single stage is bullet pulling / opps corrections.
  • jtmarine0831jtmarine0831 Member Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I us my old RockChucker for my Precision work. I use my progressive for my 223, 45, 38, but I save that RC just for my 308. It is a lot easier to get each round almost identical in OAL with it than in any progressive, even the top of the line Dillons and in my opinion they are the best. I bet, no gaurentee that if you took your calipers to any of my 308 rounds you would not find more than .0005" difference in all of them, yes .0005". And I can't do that with any progressive. I'm not saying that you need tolerances that tight, but if you ever get real serious about those one hole groups you will need that single stage!

    This picture is why I kept my single stage
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    5 shot group with my 308Win., I tried to put another one in there while I was on a roll but it wasn't meant to be. I cried over this one![:(]
  • Wolf.Wolf. Member Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    Low tech solutions to non-existent problems? Cute.

    An arrogant, haughty remark if I ever heard one.

    If you have something significant and or constructive to add, spit it out. Save, however, the sm@&+ @$$ed remarks for your diary.
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    "Just another example of how low-tech solutions(using a single-stage press for something as simple as decapping the odd case after you get a progressive) to non-existent problems(Gosh, what WILL I do with that old single stage press, now that I have a progressive) get solved, sorta."
    wolfy-simply an observation; you read into it whatever strikes your fancy
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