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Military trainer 4mm Nazi marked

grimmergrimmer Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
edited February 2008 in Ask the Experts
I have a friend who has a 4mm military trainer Nazi marked that he would like to know more about with an eye to selling it.i have never seen a 4mm trainer so could use some help.I have taken some pictures but need to learn how to post.Any one familiar with these?
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  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    sounds like it was bored to fire a common parlor pistol cartridge at the time.
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
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  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i THINK (not know, THINK) that the Germans used a 4mm inside primed center fire as a subcaliber training round- dimly recall seeing a barrel insert for pistols that allwed the 4mm to be fired- indoor, short range. Possibly the same rd. Have one cartridge in my collection, xrayed, and durned if it is not center fire. Cute little cartridge.
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Try to open the bolt if it pivots in the middle and is spring loaded all the way back then it is an air rifle. .177
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  • grimmergrimmer Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gun was definitely made as a 4mm."Barrel" is actually a shroud over the shorter actual barrel for the. 4mm.round,has a nice cover that keeps stuff out of the barrel shroud and must be opened to fire.Looks like the typical .22 trainer just made for the 4mm.Has the nazi markings and is very well made with most of the original bright bluing. Missing the sling,cleaning rod and the floorplate screws,probably lost when "liberated" and brought to the USA.
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  • grimmergrimmer Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some of the markings are "Buschen Sportmodell Nurnberg" Eigentum Des Sportamtes" and on the barrel "Germaniawaffenwerk A-G Zella Mehlis"alo what looks like-T-G-A.I have taken pictures but don't know how to post them on this site.
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Although made by Anschutz, your rifle might be covered in this book that describes the training rifles that Mauser made between the Wars. Many different German manufacturers made similar training rifles during this period during the run up to World War II, although they were predominately chambered for the .22 rimfire cartridge.



    "Mauser Smallbores: Sporting, Target & Training Rifles."
    By Jon Speed
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