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Old ammo

bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
edited February 2008 in Ask the Experts
,,,,,have been given three hundred antique cartridges (black powder/smokeless),,,,,most have a hole in the case (screwed to a display board),,,,majority are primed and powder will trickle out,,,,how can I make these inert/safe,,,,,they range from a .600 Nitro to the smallest .22,,,,,,,

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  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is there a way of checking if loose ammo(308) which has been exposed to hot and freezing temps is safe to use.
    Thanks
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I came across some old rifle ammo & would like to know something about it. Some has headstamp NC 17 with a 218.6gr round nose bullet over 34.2gr of some kind of stick powder. The other headstamp is RA 17 with a r in the middle of the primer. Bullet is 150.2gr pointed over 42.5gr of stick powder. Was able to pull the bullets out of the cases by hand so not in the best of shape.
    Thanks for any information
    Walt
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes,i bought some old ammo today at a garage sale,It is tarnished and some has some mold trying to start on a few piece's,Now my question is can you clean it up in a tumbler,If not how can i clean it.

    Thank's For Any Information
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello,just thought I would toss this out and see if anyone could tell me what this is.
    I had a customer come in with a stripper clip full of some old military ammo.
    Problem is He's not really sure what caliber is is,and after looking at the rounds I'm not either.
    OK,the case is marked with the # 19 on the left of the primer,and #38 to the right of the primer.On top of the primer is in Roman numerals VIII.The case is brass,but it is not "necked down" like a 8mm,it is almost shaped like a rocket,He has the rifle for these and was wanting some more.I told him to bring in the rifle and let me take a look at it,but until then I wanted to see if any of my Gunbroker Pals could figure this one out.Thanks,John

    J&F
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was given 3 boxes of Remington .308 150gr soft points that are about 35 years old. Should I expect it to shoot the same as current production of same weight, style? The gun I bought was sighted in with these rounds originally, and I would stick with the same type, but I don't want to go from an old box to a new box and have them shoot different.

    I get old shotgun shells often, but I don't expect much diffenerce in shotguns as compared to centerfire rifle ammo.
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What gun fired .45 gov.? I have a .45 round marked on the base bottom.......... peters above,,,,,,,on the left side 45,,,,,,,,on the right side C,,,,,,,,,, on the bottom GOVT. This is a rimed round and the brass stands only about 1 inch; bullet is lead cone shaped and flat nosed.
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought some old reloading stuff yesterday, and in with the equipment and stuff was some old ammo. A partial box of Ajax 20ga heavies, A box of Eley cb caps, and a box of Peters 32 long shot cartridges. Are these shells worth anything anymore?
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looking at buying some old 300 H & H ammo. They are all silver-tip, so I want to use them sparingly for hunting. Would it be a good idea to pull the bullets and put fresh powder in, or assume they all would be good and use them as is?
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    anyone know the address or phone # to old western scrounger? or home page add? thanks joe
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Does anyone know about BALL FRANGIBLE AMMO CAL.30 T44 lot F.A.32? I got a letter out to an ammo collecter. Haven,t heard back, any info would be great. thanks[:)]
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I went to a gun range a while back and took along a couple boxes of 22 ammo I found when cleaning out deceased in-laws house. About one fourth of bullets would not fire. Can anyone tell me how long ammo can should last and still be dependable?
  • Dumpster BabyDumpster Baby Member Posts: 291 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Frangible ammo is used for training purposes where the target doesn't get destroyed from repeated hits (usually). The most famous use of your kind of ammo was for aerial gunner training in WW2. They would shoot those mostly non-destructive rounds at real airplanes. See the article below:

    http://rwebs.net/dispatch/output.asp?ArticleID=57
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks, read topic also got responce from ammo collector and he said they are uncommon but not of great value 25.00 per box..The people I got them from back in the 70. used them for small game I have never used them for that..Bruce Thanks again
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the early days of World War II, the U.S. Army Air Corps wanted ammunition that trained aircraft gunners by enabling them to fire live ammunition at target aircraft without shooting them down. Lots of research was done and the result was what the Army designated as "Ball, Frangible, Caliber, .30 T-44." The bullet was a mottled gray color and was identified by green and white bands. They're often seen in cartridge collections and at gun shows.

    The bullet was composed of 50 percent powdered lead and 50 percent bakelite. It weighed 107 grains and was loaded to a velocity of 1,360 fps. Huge quantities of this ammunition were loaded during and after the war.

    Above is cut and paste. Search for "pinball aircraft" for some fun reading- armored fighter that had a scoring device, pilot flew near bomber, gunners in training shot at him, scoring device kept track of hits- like a pinball machine. The also shot down a few of the "pinball" planes.
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks 11b6r have been reading a lot on these. Where abouts in Va are you Our son is a police office in Christianburg. he is in Iraq now comming home in two months with Richmond group...
  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990
    edited November -1
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BG- hang my hat near Richmond VA- when I am not on an airplane somewhere. Been out of state 7 weeks out of last 7 weeks. Christiansburg is a nice area. Please send my best to your son- tell him I said be careful out there.
  • bghaugbghaug Member Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    11b6r will tell him .he is on mission for 10 days will hear from him whenthey get in.. thanks we may move there when he gets home have big house to sell here first.
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