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Old Musket

glockman55glockman55 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
edited February 2008 in Ask the Experts
I have this old smooth bore Musket handed down to me. I've been told it was a flint lock, converted to a cap lock. I've tried to find some info on this gun but couldn't find muck. I have had it apart and there aren't any numbers that I can see. The barrel was silver in color, and the barrel is 40 1/2" total gun length is 56". looks like about a 62 or 64 cal. Just a guess.
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Sorry the pics aren't the best. I was told it dates back to 1776, I have my doubts. Any info would be great. Thanks.
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  • Chief ShawayChief Shaway Member, Moderator Posts: 6,289 ******
    edited November -1
    The side plate and the barrel bands look like the ones on a Charleville. They were in the caliber range you are refering to. The pics aren't bad but could use more. Too bad it still didn't have it's flinter.

    http://www.11thpa.org/charleville.html
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  • rhmc24rhmc24 Member Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its a Napoleonic french type, something of knock-off of the Charleville. Likely made for the French but not made in France, probably in Austria or one of Napoleon's other occupied countries.

    My Dad bought me one almost identical in Mobile, Alabama in 1940 for $1.50. These were imported by the South in the Civil War. You could have Confederate relic. If you can prove its provenance, it would be worth serious money.
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  • glockman55glockman55 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It has been mentioned in the family about the civil war. Interesting. I also have another old muzzle loader with a heavy octagon barrel with a small rifled cal. That one has Remington stamped on the barrel under the stock. I'll get some pics and post them. Pretty neat to think where these guns have been and who handled them. Thanks for the Replies.
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  • TeXaS_St0rMTeXaS_St0rM Member Posts: 1 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like you might have a Model 1816 Contract Rifle. These were based on the design of the Charlesville if I'm not mistaken. Mine is a Springfield made in 1834.

    Does yours have any writing in front of or behind the hammer or on top oif the rear of the barrel?

    Some pictures of mine for you to compare.
    M1816_R.jpg
    M1816_L.jpg

    You can see some closeups on my web page.
    http://thepaulkfamily.com/gunweb/m1816springfield.htm

    Hope this helps[:)]
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  • glockman55glockman55 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Old_Musket_007_Small_.jpg
    Old_Musket_009_Small_.jpg
    Old_Musket_001_Small_1.jpg
    Old_Musket_012_Small_.jpg

    They are real similar, the carved out cheek piece in the stock and the trigger guard look different. Yours is in better shape than mine. I would like to restore the silver barrel, but don't dare put the wire wheel to it. LOL
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  • glockman55glockman55 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The only markings I've found is these.

    Old_Musket_Small_.jpg

    There is what looks like the letter ( T ) stamped above these markings too.
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  • glockman55glockman55 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is the other old ML rifle I have. It is stamped Remington on the barrel under the stock.
    Old_ML_Rifle_002_Small_.jpg
    Old_ML_Rifle_001_Small_.jpg
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    Old_ML_Rifle_003_Small_.jpg
    Old_ML_Rifle_005_Small_.jpg
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The rifle with Remington on the barrel Has a MODERN Lock on it the rifle is a made-up gun of different vintage parts.
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  • glockman55glockman55 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, I thought it looked like someone tried to make some changes to the Lock assy. It doesn't work properly. I don't know why, maybe the original broke. Who Knows. I was just curious to what year it was made.
    Thanks
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