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Rem Model 7 question
wm5l
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I just purchased a NIB model 7 in 7mm-08. My question is should I be concerned about the barrel touching the stock at the forend just under the sling stud? My first thoughts were to sand it down where I can run a dollar under it but it looks like it is made to touch here. It has a real high spot in the stock there. It almost looks like the stock is molded plastic or something like that. Is this stock wood?
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The second part of your question is a little confusing. Wood should look like wood and synthetic stocks look like, well, plastic. When you check Remington's website and see the Model Sevens chambered for the 7mm-08 there are three:
CDL which is wood.
XCR Camo which is synthetic and camoflage.
Youth which comes in either wood or synthetic.
If you can't figure it out from this, I suggest that you read the box and see what it states. Here is the website for Remington:
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_seven/
In general, we are always concerned about the barrel touching the stock since it can cause inaccuracies. The pressure point that you are describing is left in at the factory if that's what this is. Being at the sling swivel is not good under any condition. But the rule of thumb is to leave it in and shoot it for accuracy to see if the barrel needs that pressure point. If the groups appear to be less than acceptable or contain some aberrations, try removing the pressure point. It can always be put back in if necessary.
As long as you're working on the stock, you might consider having the action and recoil lug bedded.
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nononsense nailed it as usual. Take the nub out and test it at the range. Free floated barrels work in some cases, if not a match book cover will give you the pressure point at the range to compare both ways quickly. I free floated a 6mm REM model 7 for my youngest and bedded the action for quite an improvement on accuracy.
Paul
Mountain Magic Gunsmithing
Every time you remove it from the stock it will change POI more than likely..
It really sounds like a bedding job is called for......
Of course guns cost more now, everything is costing gobs and oodles more. The cost of operations are mounting and most of the firearms companies have been bought out or merged with other companies and the BoDs and stockholders want profits.
Gunmakers have watched and listened to the gun owners complain about the lack of quality and lack of accuracy in their products. Gradually many of them have come around to giving us, the shooters, more of what we want. The best example is probably Savage but most of the others are getting the idea that we should be taken seriously.
One of the 'drawbacks' if you will, is that for the last 40 years or there abouts, shooters have been touting the benefits of stock bedding for the action, bottom metal and sometimes the barrel to enhance accuracy. The problem is that the gunsmith or stockmaker had to remove stock material carefully in order to get the bedding to be effective. This was around the action and barrel channel, then the stock had to be put on the mill in order to get the recoil lug area opened up accurately. This took time and therefore cost more money.
Bedding a rifle has become de rigueur, common place and necessary by public demand. The two basic materials used for stocks; wood and fiberglass both require epoxy bedding to prevent compression and movement of the barreled action. The firearm manufacturers see this going on for a couple of decades and decide that they don't need to be 100% accurate with the inletting because someone is just going to open it up for the bedding anyway. They save time and money. The gunsmiths and now those who specialize in just bedding, save some time and money because they don't have spend as much time opening the stock up in order to properly bed the rifle. So you didn't get less quality, you got a rifle nearly ready to be bedded by you or your gunsmith.
The screws need to have some space around them because they aren't supposed to touch the stock. If the action screws touch the stock, they become recoil lugs which results in a lack of accuracy. The space also allows you or the gunsmith to get the barreled action centered in the stock. Technically, pillar bedding is more appropriate for Remingtons, in my opinion.
That's long winded and probably lost on this thread but I think it needs to be discussed.
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The whole gun seems sloppy in the stock when not tightnend down. You have to move it back and forth to get the screws lined up and to start into the threads.I cant measure it very good but it looks like about 1/16" That slop foward and backward can't be a good thing. The recoil lug slot in the stock looks very big and oversized to me. I think these guns are costing more now and you get less for your money. I just need to go shoot it before I get all worked up. Heck it might one hole then again it might not.......Jim
I believe (as in almost 100% certain) that these "Remingtons" are imported as barreled action only and the stocks are separately produced, then matched to create the completed rifle. In theory you have the barreled action maker (Zastava I believe, used to market them as Charles Daly) a stock manufacturer and an assembler who may or may not be Remington - could be three separate entities producing this rifle and not surprising there are liberal tolerances on these major parts. The barreled action itself may be great quality and the same said of the stock. The final bit of fitting may be lacking and an area of possible improvement.
If he truly has a Model Seven, your 100% certainty would be 100% wrong.
The Model Seven is a Remington product through and through. The Model 798 and 799 are the Zastavia Mauser-type barreled actions that were placed in cheap poorly fitted plywood stocks. With the new management takeover, they have returned to using much nicer stocks.
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