Remington Arms Co Cal 7mm rolling block

jmecherul

hi
I have a Remington Cal 7mm rolling block patented oct22 1902 or 1901. there are no serial numbers or other markings looking around this might be model 1897 i am not sure. anybody with any ideas if i am right and how much it would cost? it is in very good condition. any help is appreciated. thanks

jmecherul

rufe-snow

I believe the difference between the 1897 & 1902, Model 5's RB's., is that the 1902 has a ejector. Chances are that is what you have, with that patent date.

Without photos it's hard to estimate value?

jmecherul

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jmecherul

jmecherul

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Jmecherul

bgjohn

Now they are too big.
JM

jmecherul

here are the pics hopefully i got them right this time









please let me know if this is a Model 5 rolling block and sort of how much might be worth. thanks

jmecherul

jmecherul

hi

does anybody have an opinion? thanks

jmecherul

rufe-snow

quote:Originally posted by jmecherul
hi

does anybody have an opinion? thanks

jmecherul



It appears to be factory original, and in very good external condition, ( the rifling condition in the bore would also be a factor in it's value ). The nice ones like yours have pretty much dried up over the years. Most that you run across, have come up from south of the border, and show years of use and abuse. My WAG is that it would be in $500 to $1000, range.

tug

If it's in 7mm, it's likely a # 5. A pretty good test is that the # 1's (the black powder/cast iron ones) had sliding extractors, while the # 5's (the smokeless powder ones) had rotary extractors (they revolved about the same pin as the breechblock), but apparently some early # 5' were made w sliding extractors, so this is not an absolute test. A minor addition to the confusion is that there is disagreement as to whether the # 1's were ever made in 7mm, but authoritative sources claim that a few were during the transition from bp to smokeless.

nononsense

Bad pictures here are bigger ones





Jmecherul


Let's try it this way.

tug

OOPS! missed the patent date. # 1's ceased production in about 1897 (a few were made after that, but not many). It seems that all 1902 patent date pieces were steel (smokeless powder).

As an additional note: One source (from the Oct 1959 National Rifleman, I think) said that these were chambered for an earlier 7mm Mauser round than the current commercial one (longer head-to-shoulder length), but the 2 we've had both shot/shoot commercial ammo just fine.