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Ammo ID

JGW64JGW64 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
edited February 2008 in Ask the Experts
,,,,need help identifying what appears to be miniature shotgun shells,,,,,they are no larger than a .22LR and are loaded with sawdust like substance,,,,,have pix but unable to get them to post on GB,,,,,any ideas what they might be used for ?????????
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  • JGW64JGW64 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was loading some AK magazines the other day in prep for going to the range. I keep an ammo can of loose 7.62 X 39.

    While loading my mags I encountered 10 rounds of ammo mixed in with my AK ammo. Dont know how it got in there. This ammo is 7.62 and has a case 1/4" longer than AK ammo and 1/4" shorter than .308 - 7.62 X 51. Anyone know what caliber it is?

    Here is a pic... ?? ammo in the middle. AK on left. .308 on right.

    [img][/img]IMG_2881.jpg
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  • JGW64JGW64 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A friend hand some old ammo in boxes and asked if I could find out what he had:

    RAIS, M41 .38 Special
    WW38 S&IW Western
    .45 ACP F.A.937 Looked like two military papers boxes with about 20 round per box.

    Thanks

    Emmett
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  • JGW64JGW64 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have some 30 Caliber M2 Ball ammo.
    Bullet is Cupro-Nickle
    Primers are sealed in red and the bullets are sealed in red also.
    Headstamp is TE 57 C 1
    I know it is 30-06, want to know where it was made.
    According to Cartridges of the World; it is machine gun ammo.
    152gr. bullet.
    Is the "TE" or "C" the manufacturer?

    If the "C" there are 3 possibilities.
    1. Creedmore Cartridge Co., Barberton OH
    2. Munitionsfabrik Cassel, Cassel, Germany
    3. Pirotecnico Dell'Esercito Capua, Capua, Italy

    If the "TE" there are 2 possibilities.
    1. Cartoucherie de Toulouse, Toulouse, France
    2. Toyo Seiki, Ltd., Tokyo, Japan

    Just something for the experts to think about.

    I know pictures say a thousand words. Can not remember my Picture Trail account[:0]
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  • JGW64JGW64 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ran across some ammo headstamp FA then T&P I know FA is Frankford Arsenal what about the T P? Someone told me may be match ammo?
    Thanks JGW


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  • JGW64JGW64 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    went to small gun show this morning, ended up buying ziploc bag full, 32, of 8mm mauser, 8x57 the head markings are z on top, roman numeral 7, VII, on bottom on left 19, on right 37, the bullet is silver jacketed (steel) any ideas on what it is? also the brass is drab green color, I'm sure its military safe to shoot?
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  • JGW64JGW64 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think I know what it is but just double checking.

    I have about 700 rds of copper colored .308 ammo. It is stamped 61 on the top and 92 on the bottom.

    I think it is Chinese made in 92......
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  • heavyironheavyiron Member Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi,

    What caliber and date?

    Heavyiron
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  • JGW64JGW64 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry about that no date on case 30 caliber 30-06
    Cases have not been annealed.
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  • heavyironheavyiron Member Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Are you sure the headstamp isn't "I&P" instead of T and P? I don't know of any T and P.

    If this is .30 caliber ammo it is more likely to be "I&P" which was used for International and Palma match ammo in 1928.

    With no date the headstamp should be something like F A I&P.

    True?

    Regards,

    Heavyiron
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  • JGW64JGW64 Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    HeavyIron you are correct I took a closer look they are FA I&P
    some of the cases are split at the mouth so wont shoot them.
    Since I dont reload I guess they are good for componets only.
    Thanks
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